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Old 15th December 2003, 04:19 PM
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I'm constantly told by evolutionists that we did not evolve from monkeys. Instead, humans and monkeys "share a common ancestor." Who or what is this ancestor?
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Well, monkeys are pretty far back in our evolutionary history. Chimps and apes, however, aren't as distantly related. If creationists would learn that we apes and chimps are very different from monkeys, they be taken more seriously.
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Originally Posted by Northern Christian
I'm constantly told by evolutionists that we did not evolve from monkeys. Instead, humans and monkeys "share a common ancestor." Who or what is this ancestor?
A being that in fairness to creationists is probably quite monkey-like. Probably smallish, definitely mammalian, with four limbs and a tail I would imagine.

One branch of this species retained its tail. This is the branch from which the modern monkey springs.

Another branch lost their tails. They produced the gorillas, chimps, etc and also a particularly impressive ape that became upright and hairless, and grew an absurdly huge brain. (guess which ape that is )

EDIT: was confusing in original form, removed a bracketed comment.
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A professor of mine was demonstrating how similar animals are to one another or various levels. Once we started talking about genetic relations and such, he talked about hybrids. He made comments about how similar horses donkeys and zebras are that they can form hybrids. However due to chromosome structure and other genetic differences, they cannot breed. He then followed up that humans and bonobos are genetically more similar to one another than a donkey and a horse.

I think my professor really wanted to be a mad scientist.
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We did not come from moderen apes-Modern apes and humans came from a common ancestor (A furry mammalian ancestor), I am reminded of this everytime I shave my legs in the shower.
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We did not come from moderen apes-Modern apes and humans came from a common ancestor (A furry mammalian ancestor), I am reminded of this everytime I shave my legs in the shower.
If I shaved my legs in the shower I'd clog the whole sewage system...I think my ancient ancestors were members of the canidae family.
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Any biology text book in university will show you the relationship between man and apes.

Creationists seem to think chimps, monkeys, gorillas, etc are all "monkeys".
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He then followed up that humans and bonobos are genetically more similar to one another than a donkey and a horse.
Well, taking some sequences into account, humans and chimps are more similar to each other than some species of mouse are to each other. Nothing "mad scientist" about that; it's in the peer-reviewed literature.
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Originally Posted by Routerider
If I shaved my legs in the shower I'd clog the whole sewage system...I think my ancient ancestors were members of the canidae family.
...Milk_Man swiped my line! My husband has a lot of hair on his legs...I always tease him that I found the "missing link"..........
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