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Old 12th October 2012, 11:19 AM
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How can one nation...

...get it so wrong? We have, and are witnessing a fairly comprehensive turning away from God and His revealed word in this nation in recent years. Is this in fact God's doing? Is this in line with Rom 1: 18ff? Is our nation under judgement?
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You're right in that the nation did get it wrong, for some time.

It subscribed to Christianity.
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Old 12th October 2012, 01:18 PM
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this country is no longer a practicing christian country,its turned Secularism,
the judgement is the consequence of this.

but i believe,God is on the move,and great things are going to happen for the true body of christ,and lots more people will come into his kingdom.
but also persecution will be alot more. thats why we brothers and sister need to stick together. community is the key,we can do this together.

also i think even now its gaining momentum,i also need to get more active,hands on.



then the door will be shut,and away we go.

miss this one and its over. becuase i believe this will be last move of God.
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Originally Posted by savedbygrace05 View Post
...get it so wrong? We have, and are witnessing a fairly comprehensive turning away from God and His revealed word in this nation in recent years. Is this in fact God's doing? Is this in line with Rom 1: 18ff? Is our nation under judgement?
Even if you disagree with faith in the nation, you have to accept that our country is one of the most moral countries in the world. You may disagree about sex stuff, but in terms of liberty, rights, social justice, scientific and technological progress, we are doing pretty well compared to other countries and history.

But no, God isn't judging us. I would have said the same thing when I was a Christian. Not everything has to have some purpose behind it, sometimes things just happen because that is how the world works. To ask if we are under judgement now seems little different from people of the past asking if they were under judgement because they saw a solar eclipse or shooting star.

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this country is no longer a practicing christian country,its turned Secularism
Secularism is your and my freedom. It means you will never be ruled by a religion you disagree with.
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Originally Posted by Paradoxum View Post
Even if you disagree with faith in the nation, you have to accept that our country is one of the most moral countries in the world. You may disagree about sex stuff, but in terms of liberty, rights, social justice, scientific and technological progress, we are doing pretty well compared to other countries and history.

But no, God isn't judging us. I would have said the same thing when I was a Christian. Not everything has to have some purpose behind it, sometimes things just happen because that is how the world works. To ask if we are under judgement now seems little different from people of the past asking if they were under judgement because they saw a solar eclipse or shooting star.



Secularism is your and my freedom. It means you will never be ruled by a religion you disagree with.
"...our country is one of the most moral countries in the world."

Hmmm! Regular reports of child sex abuse often going back decades!

BBC News - Jimmy Savile sex abuse claims: George Entwistle statement


Corrupt police, again going back decades.

BBC News - Sean Price: Career of disgraced police chief

Far too many suffering directly and indirectly due to alcohol, drugs and gambling abuses...when we scratch the veneer of our so called morally upright country, we discover, just beneath the surface that it is just as corrupt and morally bankrupt as any other.

Don't be fooled, the root cause of our ills are due to turning our back of our Creator. God will not be mocked, no matter how much the UK tries to fool itself into believing that it can live such a godless existence and get away with it.
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Originally Posted by Gadarene View Post
You're right in that the nation did get it wrong, for some time.

It subscribed to Christianity.

For about 900 years until it was pushed away by science and the Enlightenment



Originally Posted by Paradoxum View Post
Even if you disagree with faith in the nation, you have to accept that our country is one of the most moral countries in the world. You may disagree about sex stuff, ...

The relationship between sex and Christianity has long been one of duplicity, swinging perilously between chastity and things Christians shouldn't talk about, but do an awful lot of.


This is from the on-line community of Christian media:

Jimmy was a man renowned for his charitable works - he was also a devout Roman Catholic - apparently attending Mass 2-3 times a week. Given the recent revelations regarding his predatory sexual nature - did his good charitable works and his devoutly religious nature give him a pass into heaven ?
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and Thisisstaffordshire made a point that much of what happened was well in the past when sex registers and such didn't exist, it was more accepted and, well, as everyone knows, Christianity was more prevalent.


Personally I find it sickening, but I'm not a Christian and as many have pointed out, I'm spiritually blind.
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Originally Posted by savedbygrace05 View Post

"...our country is one of the most moral countries in the world."

Hmmm! Regular reports of child sex abuse often going back decades!

BBC News - Jimmy Savile sex abuse claims: George Entwistle statement

Corrupt police, again going back decades.

BBC News - Sean Price: Career of disgraced police chief

Far too many suffering directly and indirectly due to alcohol, drugs and gambling abuses...when we scratch the veneer of our so called morally upright country, we discover, just beneath the surface that it is just as corrupt and morally bankrupt as any other.

Don't be fooled, the root cause of our ills are due to turning our back of our Creator. God will not be mocked, no matter how much the UK tries to fool itself into believing that it can live such a godless existence and get away with it.
Gasp! Two people! It's the end times!
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...get it so wrong? We have, and are witnessing a fairly comprehensive turning away from God and His revealed word in this nation in recent years. Is this in fact God's doing? Is this in line with Rom 1: 18ff? Is our nation under judgement?
At last count, the UK's population consists of only 8% Church Attenders. I havent been to the UK since 1974 but i suspect it is nothing short of a mini-America in its ungodly philosophies , idealogies, and lifestyle choices. Its a combination of desired ungodliness with apathy toward right living, that is the eventual downfall of any Nation.

God has certainly been patient with both Countries , but there does a come a time when Gods wrath gets revealed. I think one possible way is thru a nations pocketbook and other forms of prosperity.
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Gasp! Two people! It's the end times!
Just the tip of the iceberg that will sink HMS Britain.
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