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Thunderf00t uses science to demonstrate that stopping the rotation of the earth would have left evidence.
"If you can justify this as good, is there anything left to call evil?"
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One would assume that if the Earth stopped spinning that this would be noticed elsewhere. But there is nothing even remotely close noted in China or Japan that I know of, and these were societies that did have writing at the time.
So it seems far more reasonable to conclude this was a local time distortion. As such something we do not even begin to understand.
While personally I doubt this occured I'm not goingot jump to deciding that what is claimed is wrong based on postulating what must have happened. |
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THAT's a good argument...BWAAAAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!
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8th October 2012, 05:13 PM
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Reps: 98,502,523,697,538,640 (power: 98,502,523,697,539) | | Originally Posted by chilehed  Oh, I get it: an omnipotent and omniscient being who could stop the motion of the earth wouldn't be able to stop everything on the surface at the same time? And everything such a being does will by definition make sense to us?
THAT's a good argument...BWAAAAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!
I get it, he did something that would leave untold evidence of a physical nature, but only told the author of Joshua about it. 
BTW, it's an logical contradiction for a being to be both omnipotent and omniscient at the same time.
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BTW, it's an logical contradiction for a being to be both omnipotent and omniscient at the same time.
BWAAAAAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!! 
What a load....
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The Jews quarreled among themselves, saying, "How can this man give us (his) flesh to eat?"
Jesus said to them, "Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you....For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink..."
As a result of this, many (of) his disciples returned to their former way of life and no longer accompanied him...
John, Ch. 6 |
8th October 2012, 09:54 PM
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Reps: 6,864,145,131,464,949 (power: 6,864,145,131,472) | | Originally Posted by chilehed Oh, I get it: an omnipotent and omniscient being who could stop the motion of the earth wouldn't be able to stop everything on the surface at the same time? And everything such a being does will by definition make sense to us?
THAT's a good argument...BWAAAAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!
I agree. An Omnipotent being can do anything it wants to... maybe God messed with time for the people in that valley, it ultimately doesn't matter.
I am curious how you deal with the moral consequences of the situation, rather then the scientific ones?
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Reps: 92,245,936,763,251,984 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by HitchSlap Thunderf00t uses science to demonstrate that stopping the rotation of the earth would have left evidence.
That sounds like a strawman from start to finish. Where does the Bible talk about "the rotation of the earth"?
Usually that sort of stuff means their shadow clock was acting funny that day. |
8th October 2012, 11:44 PM
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It doesn't.
The reason is - back then they had no idea how that all worked. They honestly believed the sun revolved around the earth. |
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Nowhere.
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,857,444) | | Originally Posted by keith99 One would assume that if the Earth stopped spinning that this would be noticed elsewhere.
Who said it wasn't? Originally Posted by keith99 But there is nothing even remotely close noted in China or Japan that I know of, and these were societies that did have writing at the time.
Then keep looking.
Just walk right over there and ask to see their records from one single day in B.C. 1451.
You may just luck out and not get ejected from the premises; and if they do let you in to study their records, good luck finding B.C. 1451 from a country that labeled time differently.
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