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Question Starting a New Life in Christ

Starting a New Life in Christ
I'd like to start a new life in Christ, but I'm unsure of where to start and what to do. Can you please offer me some advice and tips on how I can start a new life in Christ and build a relationship with Him.

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I'd like to start a new life in Christ, but I'm unsure of where to start and what to do.
There is no end to the number of people who are willing tell you what to do. Some of them will lead you into the flesh of self worship. Some will lead you into the flesh of legalism.

The best protection you can find is to immerse yourself in the Bible. Jesus tells his disciples, "If you abide (live) in my word, then you are my disciples indeed and you will know the truth and the truth will make you free.

Churches can be tricky business. They come in denominational "brands". Each one will say that they offer the right way to know Jesus. Often they end us substituting activities, events, classes, and programs, for a relational Christian life of growing in Christ-likeness.

If you seek a church, I would suggest one that actually believes the Bible is literally true. I would suggest that you seek out an older and wiser Christian woman who clearly show the light and love of Jesus in her life and her to help you know Jesus like she does.

In Ephesians chapter four we learn that the purpose of church leadership is to help us all grow into the full image of Jesus. All too often churches try to bring us into denominational compliance instead.

Here is a link about trying to find the right church. You can see what a problem it is;

Christian Pioneer - What is the right church
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May I ask, timf, why do you recommend those who believe the bible is literally true?
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May I ask, timf, why do you recommend those who believe the bible is literally true?
Truth is the key to everything. The Bible tells us that it is truth and Jesus is truth. Truth is the absolute upon which all else hangs.

Once an allowance is made that the Bible is mistaken, faith is also undercut. If God cannot be trusted, in what then can we trust?

One could make a case that the sate religion for most western countries is secularism. We are told that secularism is the absence of religion, however, I would contend that it is a religion based on the worship of man in general and self in particular.

There are two choices in the universe. Trust in yourself (or human collectives such as government) or trust in God.

The Bible describes this as "the world" and the kingdom of God. The Bible says that if we are a friend of the world, we are an enemy of God.

Those churches who accommodate the world point their people away from God. This is what was starting to happen in Galatia. Many churches take away from the Bible. However, in Galatia they were adding to it. Either way elevates self and stops the work of the Holy Spirit trying to make us more like Jesus.

Here is a link regarding asking if the Bible can be trusted;

Christian Pioneer - Can the Bible really be true?

Here is a link showing how these two views of the universe effect our understanding the purpose of life;

Christian Pioneer - What is the purpose of life

Even those who claim the Bible is true can still miss much of the richness of the Bible. Often those who tend to be legalistic claim the Bible is true only to still miss the mark. Some of these churches will rely heavily upon the verse;

Hebrews 13:17a Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves:

This is often cited to get people to "do what they are told". However, if you go to the Greek, you find a better English translation would be "Stop resisting and allow yourselves to be persuaded by those you have chosen to follow".

By using Bible tools to get to the real meaning, you find that what could have been an oppressive mandate is really an engaging exhortation.
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Thanks Timf, helpful reply.
With a literal view of the bible should we worship God alone or Jesus and God?
I hope my questions also add direction to Smachen's OP.
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With a literal view of the bible should we worship God alone or Jesus and God?
There is much that the Bible says that we don't fully understand.

The relationship between the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is one such topic. Many denominations have made declarations about this relationship, however, I think we may never (in this life) understand fully. I think we have limitations both in capacity and frame of reference such that full understanding is going to be out of our reach.

Jesus refers to the Father. John tells us that Jesus was the creator. Jesus says that if we have seen him, we have seen the Father. There is a unity that transcends our ability to fully understand.

We can work with what we know. For example, Jesus says that He will answer our prayers and that the Father will answer our prayers.

John 14:13-14 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

John 16:23 And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.

Praying or worshiping either or both the Father and Jesus would be appropriate. However, it should be noted that there is a conditional phrase (in my name). I see this as more than just a phrase that needs to be spoken, but as a template such that our requests need to be in alignment with all that is in the character of Jesus. For example, saying, "Dear Father in heaven, let me win the lottery, in Jesus name, Amen" is more along the lines of selfishness than consistent with the selfless love that is characteristic of Jesus.
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I would find a church where the gifts of the Spirit are in manifestation. The anointing brings great liberty. It is the power of God in manifestation. It is where the Holy Spirit agrees with the Word of God and confirms it with signs following.

If you are just starting, you are literally a "babe" in Christ (no matter who old you are in the natural). It's a wonderful place to be. As someone said, you'll want to get established in truth, because the enemy does NOT want you to find out who you are, and the ability that is in you, as a New Covenant believer.

You'll want to become well established in the fundamental principles of the Word as described in Hebrews 6. Repentance from dead works to faith, baptism, the laying on of hands, etc. There's plenty of anointed teaching on the Internet. I've really been enjoying Gary Carpenter lately. He really hears God and He helps teach you how to do so yourself.

For now, get established in truth and in particularly, the truth of God's love for you. If you make it your aim to return that love to Him, you'll start off nicely.
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Starting a New Life in Christ

Dear smachen. Jesus gives us good advice, in Mathew 22, verse 35-40:
" The first and great Commandment is: Love God with all our hearts, with all our souls, and with all our minds. The second is like it: Love our neighbour as ourselves." Then Jesus gives us good advice again: " On these two Commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets." We start by treating all we know and all we meet, (whether friend or not friend) we treat them as we would love to be treated, with kindness and consideration. God will see our sincere efforts, and God will bless us, and God will also know that we love God, because we are following God`s Commandments to love and care.
Jesus will give us His Love and Joy, and the Holy Spirit will empower us with
His Love, also. "Ask and ye will receive," ( Matthew 7, verse 7-8) then we thank God and share all Love and Joy, with all around us, our neighbour.
We might stumble and forget, but then we ask God to forgive us, and carry on loving and caring, loving and caring. We are also following the Bible telling us to" Repent," to change from being selfish and unloving to becoming loving and caring and loving and caring. Love is very catching, and Love is a Christian`s great weapon, Love will overcome all and Love will change all for the better. We will become loving and caring, and the men and women which God loves. Jesus will help and guide us all the way, in fact
Jesus is the Way. Slowly and surly we will turn into the children/sons and daughters, which God our Heavenly Father wants: To Love and Obey, is what God wants from us. All we say or do,should be with Love and Compassion,
becoming loving as God is loving. God is Love, and God made us in His image. We know what is Love as God wants us to Love, and God will see our sincerety flourishing: With hearts, and souls, and minds for God, and loving
others as we love ourselves. I say this with love, smachen.
Greetings from Emmy, your sister in Christ.
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TimF has given you sound advice, Aum. Read the Word of God, for it is the Word of God; and pray much trusting the Lord Jesus as Savior of your soul, and Lord of your life. Christianity is not about a story or just a relgion, but the new Life God wants all mankind to embrace. The blessings come from a personal relationship with the Lord Jesus --not just trying to follow His teachings.
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Yes, thanks. I am looking into liberal Quakers now.
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