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24th September 2012, 01:11 PM
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Would you say there is a BIG difference between traditional/religious inspired diets and a diet inspired by the Word of God?
What diet would that be?
The passage I quoted seems to be against any religious diet. Doctrinal deviations from the true Christian message within the church have been prophesied, though the origin of the prophecy is not specified (1 Tm 4:1–2); compare with Acts 20:29–30. The first letter to Timothy warns against a false asceticism that prohibits marriage and regards certain foods as forbidden, though they are part of God’s good creation (1 Tm 4:3).
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24th September 2012, 01:24 PM
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The passage I quoted seems to be against any religious diet.
A. Religious diet is inserted in there..
B. God’s Word is not a religion…therefore even if ALL religious diets were forbidden, God’s commandments would still prevail.
Originally Posted by MoreCoffee Doctrinal deviations from the true Christian message within the church have been prophesied, though the origin of the prophecy is not specified (1 Tm 4:1–2); compare with Acts 20:29–30. The first letter to Timothy warns against a false asceticism that prohibits marriage and regards certain foods as forbidden, though they are part of God’s good creation (1 Tm 4:3).
Do you believe that someone adhering to the Leviticus 11 or Deuteronomy 14 diet, would be “deviating from Godly doctrine”?
Originally Posted by MoreCoffee Asceticism is the doctrine that a person can attain a high spiritual and moral state by practicing self-denial, self-mortification, and the like.
Agreed, asceticism sounds an awful lot like what is described in 1 Tim 4…
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24th September 2012, 01:45 PM
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B. God’s Word is not a religion…therefore even if ALL religious diets were forbidden, God’s commandments would still prevail.
Obviously the bible is not a religion, it is a book. The religion is what the book teaches people to do and believe.
Originally Posted by tzadik Do you believe that someone adhering to the Leviticus 11 or Deuteronomy 14 diet, would be “deviating from Godly doctrine”?
If they thought that God would stop loving them if they did not follow the kind of diet you're talking about then yes, such a person would be deviating from godly doctrine.
Originally Posted by tzadik Agreed, asceticism sounds an awful lot like what is described in 1 Tim 4… |
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Would you tell someone who is actively committing adultery that God would stop loving them?
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24th September 2012, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by tzadik Would you tell someone who is actively committing adultery that God would stop loving them?
No. Would you? |
24th September 2012, 01:55 PM
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No...
So I don't understand the point you are making regarding "deviating from Doctrine".
It's not my place to tell anyone whether or not God will STOP loving them...I'm not the judge.
My job as a believer is to encourage and exhort myself and others to live their lives according to God's Will. After all we are His.
How is it then that some are led to believe that anyone keeping God's Instructions regarding food in Leviticus 11 and Deuteronomy 14 are "adhering to the doctrine of demons"???
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24th September 2012, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by tzadik No...
So I don't understand the point you are making regarding "deviating from Doctrine".
It's not my place to tell anyone whether or not God will STOP loving them...I'm not the judge.
My job as a believer is to encourage and exhort myself and others to live their lives according to God's Will. After all we are His.
How is it then that some are led to believe that anyone keeping God's Instructions regarding food in Leviticus 11 and Deuteronomy 14 are "adhering to the doctrine of demons"???
You asked,Do you believe that someone adhering to the Leviticus 11 or Deuteronomy 14 diet, would be “deviating from Godly doctrine”? I replied,If they thought that God would stop loving them if they did not follow the kind of diet you're talking about then yes, such a person would be deviating from godly doctrine. Can you explain what you did not understand? |
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Reps: 734,794,008,662,200,576 (power: 734,794,008,662,206) | | Originally Posted by MoreCoffee You asked, Do you believe that someone adhering to the Leviticus 11 or Deuteronomy 14 diet, would be “deviating from Godly doctrine”? I replied, If they thought that God would stop loving them if they did not follow the kind of diet you're talking about then yes, such a person would be deviating from godly doctrine. Can you explain what you did not understand?
Let me rephrase...
If I adhere to the Leviticus 11/Deuteronomy 14 diet and encourage other believers to do the same...
Would I be adhering to a doctrine of demons?
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24th September 2012, 02:05 PM
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If I adhere to the Leviticus 11/Deuteronomy 14 diet and encourage other believers to do the same...
Would I be adhering to a doctrine of demons?
If you told them that their acceptance with God depended on following the diet or on accepting your teaching about it then yes you would. | | |
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