Home | Be a Christian | Devotionals | Join Us! | Forums | Rules | F.A.Q.


Go Back   Christian Forums > Discussion and Debate > Politics > American Politics
Register BlogsPrayersJobsArcade Calendar Mark Forums Read

American Politics Forum for political discussion that applies specifically to the United States.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #41  
Old 17th September 2012, 08:50 PM
stamperben's Avatar
It's an old family tradition

Gender: Male Married Faith: Humanist Member For 2 Years
 
Join Date: 16th October 2011
Posts: 8,579
Blessings: 153,179
My Mood Tell
Reps: 295,465,251,574,169,472 (power: 295,465,251,574,180)
stamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond repute
stamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by MachZer0
What they said was that they subtracted 29, and gave no valid reason. Voter fraud is like cockroaches. For every one you see, there are plenty you don't see.
No, they didn't say anything about cockroaches. You sure you clicked the link I provided?
__________________
___________________
The Republican and Democratic parties are alike capitalist parties — differing only in being committed to different sets of capitalist interests.

I said then, and I say now, that while there is a lower class, I am in it; and while there is a criminal element, I am of it; and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free.
Eugene Debs
Reply With Quote
Become a CF Site Supporter Today and Make These Ads Go Away!

  #42  
Old 17th September 2012, 08:59 PM
Vylo's Avatar
Stick with the King!

33 Gender: Male Faith: Atheist Party: US-Others Country: United States Member For 5 Years
 
Join Date: 3rd August 2003
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 16,420
Blessings: 26,128,661
My Mood Yeehaw
Reps: 398,005,004,256,383,680 (power: 398,005,004,256,411)
Vylo has a reputation beyond reputeVylo has a reputation beyond reputeVylo has a reputation beyond reputeVylo has a reputation beyond reputeVylo has a reputation beyond reputeVylo has a reputation beyond reputeVylo has a reputation beyond reputeVylo has a reputation beyond reputeVylo has a reputation beyond reputeVylo has a reputation beyond reputeVylo has a reputation beyond reputeVylo has a reputation beyond reputeVylo has a reputation beyond reputeVylo has a reputation beyond reputeVylo has a reputation beyond repute
Vylo has a reputation beyond reputeVylo has a reputation beyond reputeVylo has a reputation beyond reputeVylo has a reputation beyond reputeVylo has a reputation beyond reputeVylo has a reputation beyond reputeVylo has a reputation beyond reputeVylo has a reputation beyond reputeVylo has a reputation beyond reputeVylo has a reputation beyond reputeVylo has a reputation beyond reputeVylo has a reputation beyond reputeVylo has a reputation beyond reputeVylo has a reputation beyond reputeVylo has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by MachZer0 View Post
Trouble is we have no reports of disenfranchisement of valid voters
You are either very naive or being willfully ignorant.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.




"I love Alex Jones. He's like every insane theory or conspiracy that has ever existed distilled and given human form. I like to think that if the Internet were allowed to collectively raise a child, this is what would result." - Rion

“If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn't help the poor, either we have to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we've got to acknowledge that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition and then admit that we just don't want to do it.” - Steven Colbert
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 17th September 2012, 09:02 PM
MachZer0's Avatar
Caught Between Barack and a Hard Place

Gender: Male Married Faith: Christian Country: United States Member For 5 Years
 
Join Date: 9th March 2005
Posts: 54,906
Blessings: 1,004,556,590
Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,854,840)
MachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond repute
MachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by stamperben View Post
No, they didn't say anything about cockroaches. You sure you clicked the link I provided?
They didn't say anything about why they subtracted the 29 cases either
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 17th September 2012, 09:05 PM
MachZer0's Avatar
Caught Between Barack and a Hard Place

Gender: Male Married Faith: Christian Country: United States Member For 5 Years
 
Join Date: 9th March 2005
Posts: 54,906
Blessings: 1,004,556,590
Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,854,840)
MachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond repute
MachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by Vylo View Post
You are either very naive or being willfully ignorant.
That's right, I forgot about the Black Panther intimidation case. Noting that I was talking about disenfranchisement due to voter ID laws
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 17th September 2012, 09:14 PM
stamperben's Avatar
It's an old family tradition

Gender: Male Married Faith: Humanist Member For 2 Years
 
Join Date: 16th October 2011
Posts: 8,579
Blessings: 153,179
My Mood Tell
Reps: 295,465,251,574,169,472 (power: 295,465,251,574,180)
stamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond repute
stamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond reputestamperben has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by MachZer0
That's right, I forgot about the Black Panther intimidation case. Noting that I was talking about disenfranchisement due to voter ID laws
Who did they turn away? Ive asked in the past and never got an answer.
__________________
___________________
The Republican and Democratic parties are alike capitalist parties — differing only in being committed to different sets of capitalist interests.

I said then, and I say now, that while there is a lower class, I am in it; and while there is a criminal element, I am of it; and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free.
Eugene Debs
Reply With Quote
  #46  
Old 17th September 2012, 09:48 PM
Sistrin's Avatar
Newbie

Gender: Male Married Faith: Christian Member For 2 Years
 
Join Date: 9th June 2012
Posts: 1,739
Blessings: 120,029,207
Reps: 1,736,348,552,385,035,008 (power: 1,736,348,552,385,039)
Sistrin has a reputation beyond reputeSistrin has a reputation beyond reputeSistrin has a reputation beyond reputeSistrin has a reputation beyond reputeSistrin has a reputation beyond reputeSistrin has a reputation beyond reputeSistrin has a reputation beyond reputeSistrin has a reputation beyond reputeSistrin has a reputation beyond reputeSistrin has a reputation beyond reputeSistrin has a reputation beyond reputeSistrin has a reputation beyond reputeSistrin has a reputation beyond reputeSistrin has a reputation beyond reputeSistrin has a reputation beyond repute
Sistrin has a reputation beyond reputeSistrin has a reputation beyond reputeSistrin has a reputation beyond reputeSistrin has a reputation beyond reputeSistrin has a reputation beyond reputeSistrin has a reputation beyond reputeSistrin has a reputation beyond reputeSistrin has a reputation beyond reputeSistrin has a reputation beyond reputeSistrin has a reputation beyond reputeSistrin has a reputation beyond reputeSistrin has a reputation beyond reputeSistrin has a reputation beyond reputeSistrin has a reputation beyond reputeSistrin has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by Touma View Post
Actually, this is registration fraud. Not voting fraud. ;-)
One must preceed the other. One helps stop voter fraud by exposing registration fraud and correcting it.

Originally Posted by stamperben View Post
Why don't you show us these "illegitimate" voters are voting at all? THEN we can delve into VOTE fraud as implied by the OP's headline.
Kind of the same argument made in regard to Iran's quest to build a nuke. Just wait until they actually use one, and then we will worry about it.

But voter regristration fraud is only step one. As Joseph Stalin said:

“The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.”

The Secretary of State Project is a "527" "political group" active since at least 2006. Their stated goals are to:

1. Endorse secretary of state candidates who take the position that voter fraud is largely a myth (as is being promoted here)

2. Voter suppression is widely and solely used by Republicans

3. It is a waste of time to remove obviously fraudulent names from voter rolls

4. Legal requirements which demand voters show photo identification to vote discriminate against racial minorities.

Interesting to note how all four of these arguments have been made in this thread by those who oppose doing anything to insure voter legality and voting accuracy.

Regardless, according to the same source, the SoS project "only backs Democrats".

Rebecca Bond, co-founder of the Secretary of State Project, once said:

"Any serious commitment to wrestling control of the country from the Republican Party must include removing their political operatives from deciding who can vote and whose votes will count."

Wow.

Source for above: https://www.capitalresearch.org/pubs...1228145204.pdf

Then, in light of Stalin's comment, consider this:

Spanish Company Will “Count” American Votes Overseas In November

When the Spanish online voting company SCYTL bought the largest vote processing corporation in the United States, it also acquired the means of manufacturing the outcome of the 2012 election. For SOE, the Tampa based corporation purchased by SCYTL in January, supplies the election software which records, counts, and reports the votes of Americans in 26 states–900 total jurisdictions–across the nation.

As the largest election results reporting company in the US, SOE provides reports right down to the precinct level. But before going anywhere else, those election returns are routed to individual, company servers where the people who run them “…get ‘first look’ at results and the ability to immediately and privately examine vote details throughout the USA.” In short, “this redirects results …to a centralized privately held server which is not just for Ohio, but national; not just USA-based, but global.”

Nevertheless, in spite of warnings by experts across the nation, American soldiers overseas will once again vote via the internet in 2012. And because SCYTL will control the method of voting and—thanks to the purchase of SOE–the method of counting the votes as well, there “…will be no ballots, no physical evidence, no way for the public to authenticate who actually cast the votes…or the count.”

Source: Spanish company will "Count" American votes overseas in November

Originally Posted by DaisyDay View Post
It isn't a credible site.
No site is credible if it challenges the views of the left.

Originally Posted by Veritas View Post
Taken straight out the of Democratic Playbook. Always discredit the source even if the story is legit.
OFT

Last edited by Sistrin; 17th September 2012 at 10:34 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #47  
Old 17th September 2012, 10:31 PM
MachZer0's Avatar
Caught Between Barack and a Hard Place

Gender: Male Married Faith: Christian Country: United States Member For 5 Years
 
Join Date: 9th March 2005
Posts: 54,906
Blessings: 1,004,556,590
Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,854,840)
MachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond repute
MachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond reputeMachZer0 has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by stamperben View Post
Who did they turn away? Ive asked in the past and never got an answer.
Check the thread on it.
Reply With Quote
  #48  
Old 17th September 2012, 11:04 PM
variant's Avatar
Happy Cat

Gender: Male Faith: Agnostic Country: United States Member For 5 Years
View Profile Pic
 
Join Date: 14th June 2005
Posts: 13,228
Blessings: 13,523
My Mood Fine
Reps: 357,713,786,302,464,448 (power: 357,713,786,302,487)
variant has a reputation beyond reputevariant has a reputation beyond reputevariant has a reputation beyond reputevariant has a reputation beyond reputevariant has a reputation beyond reputevariant has a reputation beyond reputevariant has a reputation beyond reputevariant has a reputation beyond reputevariant has a reputation beyond reputevariant has a reputation beyond reputevariant has a reputation beyond reputevariant has a reputation beyond reputevariant has a reputation beyond reputevariant has a reputation beyond reputevariant has a reputation beyond repute
variant has a reputation beyond reputevariant has a reputation beyond reputevariant has a reputation beyond reputevariant has a reputation beyond reputevariant has a reputation beyond reputevariant has a reputation beyond reputevariant has a reputation beyond reputevariant has a reputation beyond reputevariant has a reputation beyond reputevariant has a reputation beyond reputevariant has a reputation beyond reputevariant has a reputation beyond reputevariant has a reputation beyond reputevariant has a reputation beyond reputevariant has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by psalms 91 View Post
The Pa law is the biggest crock going and it is being challanged in court as it should be. I cant remember the last time there was a claim of voter fraud in this state. It was simply a political maneuver but I expect nothing less of Tom Corbett. The real fraud is the reasoning behind this law
The thing about PA is that we already required ID to prove who you are, they just wanted to make sure that fewer people would have the right ID because they weren't winning our state.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


La religione deve lasciare che dio parli per se stesso
Reply With Quote
  #49  
Old 18th September 2012, 01:11 AM
FreeinChrist's Avatar
CF Staff Trainer

62 Gender: Female Married Faith: Baptist Party: US-Democrat Country: United States Member For 5 Years Shepherd
View Profile Pic
 
Join Date: 2nd July 2003
Location: Belize
Posts: 71,109
Blessings: 275,847,397
My Mood Cheerful
Reps: 2,367,572,284,415,341,568 (power: 2,367,572,284,415,424)
FreeinChrist has a reputation beyond reputeFreeinChrist has a reputation beyond reputeFreeinChrist has a reputation beyond reputeFreeinChrist has a reputation beyond reputeFreeinChrist has a reputation beyond reputeFreeinChrist has a reputation beyond reputeFreeinChrist has a reputation beyond reputeFreeinChrist has a reputation beyond reputeFreeinChrist has a reputation beyond reputeFreeinChrist has a reputation beyond reputeFreeinChrist has a reputation beyond reputeFreeinChrist has a reputation beyond reputeFreeinChrist has a reputation beyond reputeFreeinChrist has a reputation beyond reputeFreeinChrist has a reputation beyond repute
FreeinChrist has a reputation beyond reputeFreeinChrist has a reputation beyond reputeFreeinChrist has a reputation beyond reputeFreeinChrist has a reputation beyond reputeFreeinChrist has a reputation beyond reputeFreeinChrist has a reputation beyond reputeFreeinChrist has a reputation beyond reputeFreeinChrist has a reputation beyond reputeFreeinChrist has a reputation beyond reputeFreeinChrist has a reputation beyond reputeFreeinChrist has a reputation beyond reputeFreeinChrist has a reputation beyond reputeFreeinChrist has a reputation beyond reputeFreeinChrist has a reputation beyond reputeFreeinChrist has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by Veritas View Post
Taken straight out the of Democratic Playbook. Always discredit the source even if the story is legit.

Here's what I do when I don't like lilberals using mainstream media sources for all their opinions. I read the article to see where the story was lifted. I then go to that source to verify the facts. If no sources are listed, then I google it myself to see where else I might find links to the story. The reason I do this is because I don't want somebody to come back and do what you just did.

So even though it might be a bit embarrassing, let me do this for you:

McCotter Campaign Fraud: Staffers Of Former U.S. Rep Charged In Petition Scandal

"Four campaign staffers of former Rep. Thaddeus McCotter (R-Mich) face multiple criminal charges of allegedly perpetuating election fraud: the latest twist in a GOP nomination scandal that scuttled the five-term congressman's reelection campaign and, it appears, hastened the resignation of his House seat."

There. See how easy that was? I even purposely used a leftwing site.
This is a bit different - it refers to signatures on petitions:

An investigation by Michigan Attorney General Bill Schuette charged four members of McCotter's Livonia office with violating election laws by submitting fraudulent petition signatures to qualify Congressman McCotter for the 2012 Michigan ballot, the AG said Thursday.
False petition signatures has been a concern of both parties - always have been. Trying to disinfranchize registered voters is different and what is happening in various states.
__________________
2010 - Miles walked/jogged- 557.5, biked - 289.5
2011 - Miles jogged/run - 550.2
2012 - Miles jogged/run - 500.45
2013
- Miles jogged - 190.4, Biked - 648


Don't stop Belizin'
Reply With Quote
  #50  
Old 18th September 2012, 07:39 AM
trunks2k's Avatar
Contributor

31 Gender: Male Married Faith: Humanist Party: US-Others Member For 5 Years
 
Join Date: 26th January 2004
Posts: 8,452
Blessings: 1,082,607
Reps: 31,289,026,854,854,492 (power: 31,289,026,854,873)
trunks2k has a reputation beyond reputetrunks2k has a reputation beyond reputetrunks2k has a reputation beyond reputetrunks2k has a reputation beyond reputetrunks2k has a reputation beyond reputetrunks2k has a reputation beyond reputetrunks2k has a reputation beyond reputetrunks2k has a reputation beyond reputetrunks2k has a reputation beyond reputetrunks2k has a reputation beyond reputetrunks2k has a reputation beyond reputetrunks2k has a reputation beyond reputetrunks2k has a reputation beyond reputetrunks2k has a reputation beyond reputetrunks2k has a reputation beyond repute
trunks2k has a reputation beyond reputetrunks2k has a reputation beyond reputetrunks2k has a reputation beyond reputetrunks2k has a reputation beyond reputetrunks2k has a reputation beyond reputetrunks2k has a reputation beyond reputetrunks2k has a reputation beyond reputetrunks2k has a reputation beyond reputetrunks2k has a reputation beyond reputetrunks2k has a reputation beyond reputetrunks2k has a reputation beyond reputetrunks2k has a reputation beyond reputetrunks2k has a reputation beyond reputetrunks2k has a reputation beyond reputetrunks2k has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by variant View Post
The thing about PA is that we already required ID to prove who you are, they just wanted to make sure that fewer people would have the right ID because they weren't winning our state.
Only the first time you vote at a precinct, and that ID could come in various forms including voter registration card, drivers license, utility bills, etc... After that, no ID is required, they just check your signature against the one from the last time you voted.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
voter fraud, voter suppression


Return to American Politics

Thread Tools
Display Modes


 
Become a CF Site Supporter Today and Make These Ads Go Away!


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:26 AM.