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Old 12th September 2012, 09:19 PM
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Don't think that this is so unreasonable. A woman married a building in my state!

About the insest thing. I agree. eww. But I guess it explains the book I saw today. I was looking for a nice *decent* book to read, and I picked up one that I thought would be interesting, but then I read that it was the about the love affair of a father with his daughter and I decided that I'm not really interested. Call me "old fashioned", but somehow that's not a storyline I find even a bit interesting. Sick maybe. But not interesting.

Are you serious?/ Its legal to marry a building?? What the heck???
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Old 12th September 2012, 09:53 PM
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Problem is a majority of states had allowed miscegenation or did not have any laws prohibiting such marriages in the books. The only ones who stood against such marriages were the South, and even they were few and far between.
In 1967 16 states hand laws against mixed marriage. But that's hardly the point is it ?

If all states had laws agasint mixed marriage it would still be a violation of people's rights.

Right's go not come from majority rule.

But even looking at such marriages, theologically speaking, there is no sound or logical reasoning that can be deduced that prohibits why a man and woman of different color should not be wed.
Maybe not to you. But to other people it was. Which is why using a particular theology isn't a good arguement against someone's rights.
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Old 12th September 2012, 09:57 PM
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I just want it to be legal and moral to murder these people if I do not like them. Perhaps I can start a Church that says it is!! Fannnnnnnnnnnnnnnntastic!
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Old 12th September 2012, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Athanasias View Post
I just want it to be legal and moral to murder these people if I do not like them. Perhaps I can start a Church that says it is!! Fannnnnnnnnnnnnnnntastic!
You don't need to find a Church. Abortion does the job quite nicely. It even saves you from feeling a dislike of the people when they are grown.
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Old 12th September 2012, 10:16 PM
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You don't need to find a Church. Abortion does the job quite nicely. It even saves you from feeling a dislike of the people when they are grown.

Funny i was thinking the exact same thing.
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Old 12th September 2012, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Cosmic Charlie View Post
In 1967 16 states hand laws against mixed marriage. But that's hardly the point is it ?
16. I stand corrected as I thought even less States had barred it before Loving v. Virginia.

Originally Posted by Cosmic Charlie View Post
If all states had laws agasint mixed marriage it would still be a violation of people's rights.
Depends. Most states still don't grant same-sex marriages. Is that a violation of people's rights? Don't stop with same-sex marriage; look beyond just homosexual acts.

Originally Posted by Cosmic Charlie View Post
Right's go not come from majority rule.
If you take a look at desegregation, miscegenation, abortion, contraception, sodomy, sodomy between homosexuals, etc., the Supreme Court was able to rule or overrule the way they did by basing it off what most States themselves allowed.

One reason you're not going to gain any traction on the federal level with regards to same-sex marriage: need more states to favor same-sex marriage.

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Maybe not to you. But to other people it was. Which is why using a particular theology isn't a good arguement against someone's rights.
Maybe there were people who preached that, but I do know that most in the South still held onto eugenics, that black people were primitive and based it off of antiquated & flawed anthropological, psychological studies and even using physiology to try to distinguish between whites and blacks and how segregation was warranted.
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16. I stand corrected as I thought even less States had barred it before Loving v. Virginia.
Then lets not make claims that we haven't verified.



Depends. Most states still don't grant same-sex marriages. Is that a violation of people's rights?
Yes.

Don't stop with same-sex marriage; look beyond just homosexual acts.
Huh ?

If you take a look at desegregation, miscegenation, abortion, contraception, sodomy, sodomy between homosexuals, etc., the Supreme Court was able to rule or overrule the way they did by basing it off what most States themselves allowed.
No

This is entirely incorrect. It is not true I do not know where you learned American history but this is not a correct statement.

One reason you're not going to gain any traction on the federal level with regards to same-sex marriage: need more states to favor same-sex marriage.
No

This is not true

This is incorrect



Maybe there were people who preached that, but I do know that most in the South still held onto eugenics, that black people were primitive and based it off of antiquated & flawed anthropological, psychological studies and even using physiology to try to distinguish between whites and blacks and how segregation was warranted
This is also incorrect.

While a fringe beleieved this most mainstrean objections to mixed marriage were based on bibical, thelolgical objections made my religious leaders of various type.

Please let me know where you are getting this from. This source needs to be exposed as fraudulent.
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Originally Posted by Cosmic Charlie View Post
Then lets not make claims that we haven't verified.
SOOORRRYY.

Even then, it's 34 states vs. 16.


Originally Posted by Cosmic Charlie View Post
Yes.
Same-sex marriage should be afforded?

Well then....



Originally Posted by Cosmic Charlie View Post
Huh ?
People's right. Incest, zoophilia, polygamy. Do these people too have rights that are being violated?



Originally Posted by Cosmic Charlie View Post
No

This is entirely incorrect. It is not true I do not know where you learned American history but this is not a correct statement.
Look at Bowers, Lawrence, Loving, Roe, Brown, etc., and look at how many states had already been desegregated, allowed sodomy, allowed abortions, contraception, etc.


Originally Posted by Cosmic Charlie View Post
No

This is not true

This is incorrect
We have DOMA, don't we? You really are going to believe politicians are all of a sudden going to repeal DOMA, or for that matter, the Supreme Court is going to overrule what - to this day - a majority of states don't believe is a constitutional right?



Originally Posted by Cosmic Charlie View Post
This is also incorrect.

While a fringe beleieved this most mainstrean objections to mixed marriage were based on bibical, thelolgical objections made my religious leaders of various type.

Please let me know where you are getting this from. This source needs to be exposed as fraudulent.
Fraudulent? What was segregation based off of? So these States were going to allow segregation but bat a blind eye at different races marrying one another?

Come on....
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Alright: Is it or is not legitimate for a state to permit plural marriage or polygamy? If the claim is made, that they are all consent adults of the legal age (at least 18 years of age or older): would a marriage of a man and three wives be legally sanctioned or condoned? After all, the folks that practise such do claim that they 'love one another' and that they 'gave their free and willing consent'.

What would be the impediment? In a Liberal society, there is none. There is no line in the sand that dictates what is permitted and what is not. All that matters is 'consent' and that they 'love one another'; no matter the form of relationship or how bizarre it may appear to you and I.
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