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30th August 2012, 09:47 PM
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People can wear whatever they want, none of my business, but my problem with it, is that those who are infusing Messianic Judaism in our charismatic churches, say that if we do wear it, we will "get the anointing".
So that means that those who don't wear the garment are not getting the ???
This is a works teaching. And personally, sorry, with all due respect, but in my opinion they look silly huddled under it, and it can be a distraction. Go huddle at home.
Needless to say, a little leaven leavens the whole lump, these are also folks who say we should do Shabbat to get peace, yet he alone is our peace according to scripture, we don't need external rituals to get peace.
These same people say God hears us better if we say the OT scriptures in Hebrew. Need I say more?
These are folks who say it is a sin to eat a shrimp scampi, after all, it is against the Mosaic code.
So, where do you stand on all this?
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Since sin is dead apart from law, what happens if we live under law?
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Romans 7:8 But sin, seizing an opportunity through the commandment, produced in me all kinds of covetousness. For apart from the law, sin lies dead.
1 Cor 15:56 The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law.
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30th August 2012, 09:57 PM
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Reps: 235,243,701,053,623,360 (power: 235,243,701,053,627) | | Originally Posted by Frogster  People can wear whatever they want, none of my business, but my problem with it, is that those who are infusing Messianic Judaism in our charismatic churches, say that if we do wear it, we will "get the anointing".
As one infamous televangelist once said, "Adam grew wings and flew to the moon"; maybe if we stick some feathers on our back then we can do the same - what a crazy world it can be Frogster! |
30th August 2012, 09:59 PM
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That is where I stand on it.
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30th August 2012, 10:00 PM
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Good one!
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Romans 7:8 But sin, seizing an opportunity through the commandment, produced in me all kinds of covetousness. For apart from the law, sin lies dead.
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30th August 2012, 10:02 PM
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30th August 2012, 10:18 PM
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30th August 2012, 10:45 PM
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Reps: 297,590,039,674,313,408 (power: 297,590,039,674,332) | | Originally Posted by Frogster Try to understand how important it was, for God to send paul to jerusalem by revelation to fight this type of thing off. God cares.
I don't think God frets over His children acting goofy. Joe, God just isn't that touchy. He looks on the heart.
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30th August 2012, 11:30 PM
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I knew you would understand.
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30th August 2012, 11:34 PM
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Reps: 5,769,546,376,185,424,896 (power: 5,769,546,376,185,461) | | Originally Posted by Simply Put I don't think God frets over His children acting goofy. Joe, God just isn't that touchy. He looks on the heart.
Paul fought this Spirit in Galatia, Philippi, Corinth, Ephesus, Colossae, and Crete, and in fact he wrote against it alot because it takes away from the Gospel. So we must know God was touchy about it, they were deserting Christ, when they heeded this doctrine, so i disagree in no small manner.
Isn't leaving Christ a sign that their hearts were in the wrong place?
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Romans 7:8 But sin, seizing an opportunity through the commandment, produced in me all kinds of covetousness. For apart from the law, sin lies dead.
1 Cor 15:56 The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law.
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30th August 2012, 11:39 PM
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Reps: 5,769,546,376,185,424,896 (power: 5,769,546,376,185,461) | | Originally Posted by Simply Put I don't think God frets over His children acting goofy. Joe, God just isn't that touchy. He looks on the heart.
Just out of curiousity, would you let this doctrine invade your church?
So if people brought this teaching, with the things in the op, would you just sort of write it off as goofy?
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