Unbelief limiting God's work

Daughter of Ararat · #1 7th August 2012, 03:48 AM

And does our belief/unbelief limit God's ability to work in things like healing and other miracles? Why or why not?

someguy14 · #2 7th August 2012, 04:11 AM

Surrender. Flesh is temporary, God is eternal.

The only thing worth doing is for God alone.
Doubt in God is evidence of worldly attachments.

Yahu · #3 7th August 2012, 04:12 AM

Originally Posted by Daughter of Ararat

And does our belief/unbelief limit God's ability to work in things like healing and other miracles? Why or why not?

Even Yeshua couldn't do healing or miracles in His home town where they knew Him. There was too much unbelief effecting the situation.

Trying to do a miracle where no one has any faith is difficult. In that case the Holy Spirit can manifest to change that unbelief. For example, I was teaching a coven of witches. They didn't believe Yah even existed until a prophecy came for them. They called it 'channeling Jesus'. By the time I left, they acknowledged that I just followed a different deity, not a non-existent one. They heard me counter their witchcraft in the name of Yeshua and saw the consequences.

onlybygrace84 · #4 7th August 2012, 05:11 AM

Originally Posted by Yahu

Even Yeshua couldn't do healing or miracles in His home town where they knew Him. There was too much unbelief effecting the situation.

Trying to do a miracle where no one has any faith is difficult. In that case the Holy Spirit can manifest to change that unbelief. For example, I was teaching a coven of witches. They didn't believe Yah even existed until a prophecy came for them. They called it 'channeling Jesus'. By the time I left, they acknowledged that I just followed a different deity, not a non-existent one. They heard me counter their witchcraft in the name of Yeshua and saw the consequences.

gideons300 · #5 7th August 2012, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by Daughter of Ararat

And does our belief/unbelief limit God's ability to work in things like healing and other miracles? Why or why not?

Scripturally, it truly is the only limitation I know of for these things work by faith. In one city Jesus went to, we re told He could do no mightly works because of their unbelief. In another, the samaritan woman reached past the fact Jesus was not even sent to any but the Jews and still, she got her answer, her faith was so great.

Now, if we could only see that this also applies to overcoming sin in our lives....

According to your faith be it unto you......

Blessings,

Gideon

Daughter of Ararat · #6 7th August 2012, 05:25 PM

Does the necessary faith to experience a miracle hold that God can do it or that God will do it?

motherprayer · #7 7th August 2012, 05:53 PM

God alone has the power to perform miracles. He also has the choice as to whether it is in His divine Will to carry them out.

Sometimes a person's greatest testimony is how God worked in them, even through their limitations.

For instance, I have a blind co-worker, who also is Christian. She is one of the most humble and hard-working people I know, and while I believe God has the power to heal her, it is such a tremendous show of His glory to see her working hard and taking on cases (she is a caseworker) with no sight whatsoever.
If God healed her tomorrow, then it would be miraculous. She only has one eye, and that one is so damaged so sight could ever come from it naturally.
But eventually, the miracle would be forgotten, and most certainly it would be doubted. The greatest miracle in her life is how far she has gotten while missing a sense the rest of us don't even think to be grateful for. She doesn't complain, she doesn't lean on others, she just gets the job done. God has worked in her life, and given her peace in her situation.

Tee_w · #8 7th August 2012, 05:55 PM

I know of one case where an atheist was enjoying a healing meeting. Words of knowledge were been given out for people's sicknesses and as they responded they were being healed. The atheist thought the whole thing was faked and laughed heartedly every time someone responded to a word of knowledge and calmed to be healed.

Then he got the shock of his life when a word of knowledge was given for his sickness and God healed him.

Who's faith was that? Certainly not the atheist's or ex-atheist as he now is.

JimB · #9 7th August 2012, 06:43 PM

I have wrestled with this problem in the past. I could not/cannot imagine the God I have come to know through all these years, having his hands tied and lacking compassion to heal some terminal illness simply because of someone’s (my) lack of faith. Does that mean he sits in heaven with his arms folded and allows people to suffer agonizing pain and perhaps die of some lingering terminal illness because someone has denied him the right and power to heal through unbelief? That would make them healers instead of him. And I thought God healed; not our faith. And, IMO, he will heal with or without faith (after all, he healed the severely demonized Gadarene, didn’t he? And severly demonized people do not have faith do they?)

If faith is trust, as I have come to believe it is, then it is more about receiving healing than in bestowing it. Jesus could do so few mighty works in Nazareth, not because unbelief prevented God from working/healing, but because unbelief blocked their inability to receive it, just as unbelief (lack of trust) blocks a person’s ability to receive the grace of redemption. If a doctor prescribes a medication that will help cure an affliction I suffer, but I do not believe him enough to accept/receive his advice and I fail to have the prescription filled, I will continue to suffer and perhaps die. It is not the doctor’s fault, or the fault of the medication—it was my fault because of my lack of trust, my unbelief. I suppose the doctor could force the pills down my throat but that’s not how doctors work. I can be healed if I want to be healed and faith/trust enough to do what is required or I can die.

Anyhow, that's how I see it.

Tee_w · #10 8th August 2012, 05:11 AM

If faith is trust, as I have come to believe it is, then it is more about receiving healing than in bestowing it. Jesus could do so few mighty works in Nazareth, not because unbelief prevented God from working/healing, but because unbelief blocked their inability to receive it, just as unbelief (lack of trust) blocks a person’s ability to receive the grace of redemption. If a doctor prescribes a medication that will help cure an affliction I suffer, but I do not believe him enough to accept/receive his advice and I fail to have the prescription filled, I will continue to suffer and perhaps die. It is not the doctor’s fault, or the fault of the medication—it was my fault because of my lack of trust, my unbelief. I suppose the doctor could force the pills down my throat but that’s not how doctors work. I can be healed if I want to be healed and faith/trust enough to do what is required or I can die.
Anyhow, that's how I see it.

Like, thanks for that JimB.
Blessings,
Tee