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Old 3rd August 2012, 11:28 PM
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So... Chik-fil-a... yeah.

Who else is sick of hearing about the Chik-fil-a nonsense?

I know I am, so I'm doing the only logical thing I can think of... talking about it some more.

Seriously, what.. the... heck. Just what the heck. The polarizing effect this situation is having on Christians is absolutely ridiculous on some levels.

My position is fairly simple.. I support Chik-Fil-A and Co.'s right to free speech. I also support the free speech of the people opposing them (of which I consider myself a member).

What I don't support:
- Inequality between human beings.
- Hating anyone.
- Attacking anyone.

There's this little thing called "Positive protest". It's where you protest something you don't agree with by affirming what you do agree with. There is no reason for people on either side to be out-right attacking each other, calling for the elimination of the other side entirely, or resorting to outright childish hate. What would Jesus do? I guarantee "hate your neighbor" would not have made the list.

Look, everyone has the right to speak out and everyone has the right to speak out against. Everyone has the right to protest, and everyone has the right to boycott. Anti-gay Christians are notorious for their impromptu boycotts of products, events, and people, just as much as people on the other side of the issue are up for boycotting Chik-fil-A.

However..

*shifty eyes*

I do have an issue.

I don't think city officials have a right to deny a corporation the right to set up shop just because of some religious beliefs, as long as they meet the requirements of equal hiring and non-discrimination. So it leaves a bad taste in my mouth when I see city mayors or other officials in governmental bodies getting involved in this absurdity and saying "We don't want you around." FYI: That's not exactly tolerance either, I gotta say.

Let them set up shop. Let them come. And let the opposition boycott. Or at least before you make any determinations on who should and should not be allowed to put a business within the city or state limits, consider asking the taxpayers what they want to see happen. Fun fact: Many individuals on the opposite side may welcome the business for the opportunity of being able to protest. Even if you don't like someone or something, doesn't mean you want to ban it entirely from your state.

*breathes in*

I think I'm done. I really just had to get that out.

So.. anyone else here in the libby area have any thoughts on the situation?

Keep in mind that the rules of CF state we are allowed to discuss homosexuality here without promotion.. so for the people who are protesting Chik-fil-A's statements, I'd just stick to calling this a matter of "equality" and leave it at that as much as possible.

I welcome the thread being shut down if it should in some way be in violation of the rules, but I think we're capable of operating within them.
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Old 4th August 2012, 01:33 AM
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I do not eat at Chick Fil A, nor do most of my Co-workers as I work in a very LGBT supportive industry.

I think what frustrates me the most is that in the 21st Century, we have people using God's name to justify the systematic discrimination and denial of equality to an entire subset of humanity, based exclusively on 5 vague verses, in the wrong language, and a foreign context written some 2-4000 years ago in a book.

The whole issue at large just makes me disgusted with Christianity to be honest.
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It is an unfortunate state of affairs. I pray for everyone involved. There is a schism in the Body of Christ, and there is much to be done to get our house in order. To put this on display for the world in such a way is to present an unwholesome witness for Christ and the Holy Spirit dwelling within us. To drag our Lord's name into the worldly politics of divisiveness is appalling and vain. We will be judged by the measure we judge others. May God have mercy on us.
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I know ,,,i will eat anywhere that has good wholesome food im in Canada so we don't have Chik-Fil-A here but i wouldn't stop eating there ,,,,i equate that for straight people not coming to my store because we support equal marriage. the whole thing is absurd.
and I agree with you Puptart....I use positive protest all the time ,,,the more i am attacked the more i come back with love...sort of shocks them,,,they expect an attack and when they don't get one ,,,they go all mute,,,,quite interesting
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Old 4th August 2012, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by baryogenesis View Post
It is an unfortunate state of affairs. I pray for everyone involved. There is a schism in the Body of Christ, and there is much to be done to get our house in order. To put this on display for the world in such a way is to present an unwholesome witness for Christ and the Holy Spirit dwelling within us. To drag our Lord's name into the worldly politics of divisiveness is appalling and vain. We will be judged by the measure we judge others. May God have mercy on us.
Great words
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Is this where chic flick didn't like gays so gays decided to go there and make out?
How did that end up?
Personally i think it's kinda funny lol
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It's kinda sad really, we have enough pastors and ministers shoving morals down our throat, now the corporations are getting involved.
Religion and politics ruin everything. People would get a long so much better if those two topics were left out.

But few footnotes
- I like freedom of speech, but I think it's overly abused and may be better to not have it
- love should be a human emotion, not a political agenda
- what the heck is up with the Bella vampire girl?
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I think mayors have the right to block businesses that they feel are wrong for their communities, as some have done to Walmart. However, I would be more supportive of the mayors' decision if they were doing it because fast food is terrible (hello chicken with hormones and antibiotics, in addition to most of it probably being fried and otherwise unhealthy) and not because of the business owners being against gay marriage.
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It is an unfortunate state of affairs. I pray for everyone involved. There is a schism in the Body of Christ, and there is much to be done to get our house in order. To put this on display for the world in such a way is to present an unwholesome witness for Christ and the Holy Spirit dwelling within us. To drag our Lord's name into the worldly politics of divisiveness is appalling and vain. We will be judged by the measure we judge others. May God have mercy on us.
Beautifully said. Tragically, something I don't think Mr.Cathy nor his Christian followers have ever considered.
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