Breakthrough?

I have thinking of asking for help for a while , but am not sure if this is the way to do it.

I have seen many healed when I pray for them, but I can not seem to get a breakthrough when praying for the sick in hospital.

The majority are christian of many denominations and beliefs, but not all are.

Is there some resistance here , spiritual or otherwise?

How do I get this breakthrough?

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Alan

Sorry, I don't know. Have you asked God?

Has He led you to pray for healing with people in the hospital, or is it your own idea? Maybe there is a spiritual stronghold there, and prayer and fasting is required. Again, He knows these answers, take it to Him.

Originally Posted by whatfor

I have thinking of asking for help for a while , but am not sure if this is the way to do it.

I have seen many healed when I pray for them, but I can not seem to get a breakthrough when praying for the sick in hospital.

The majority are christian of many denominations and beliefs, but not all are.

Is there some resistance here , spiritual or otherwise?

How do I get this breakthrough?

You do not need a breakthrough.

You are dealing with the same thing Jesus did.

It is a problem that is prevalent among Christians today.

It is in epidemic proportions!

As long as people have these "symptoms" there is not much you can do.

The symptoms are doubt and unbelief!

Neither could Jesus!

Matt 13:58-14:1
And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief . KJV

Mark 6:5-6
5 And he could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands upon a few sick folk, and healed them.

6 And he marvelled because of their unbelief . And he went round about the villages, teaching. KJV

Fast, pray, remain faithful and obedient. That's all you can do.

Look, the issue here is not are you faithful in ministering, but is the Father working with you? Jesus only did what He saw the Father doing, that is why you find people in Acts that Jesus undoubtedly walked past who were still sick and injured, namely the lame man in Acts 3. Even in the story of John 5, Jesus was at the Bethesda Pool which could hold many hundreds of people who were sick, they were there because they were sick. Yet Jesus only went to one and healed Him because He did only what the Father was doing. Actually read that chapter and that's when Jesus declares that:

John 5:16-23
16 Therefore, the Jews began persecuting Jesus because He was doing these things on the Sabbath. 17 But Jesus responded to them, “My Father is still working, and I am working also.” 18 This is why the Jews began trying all the more to kill Him: Not only was He breaking the Sabbath, but He was even calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God.
19 Then Jesus replied, “I assure you: The Son is not able to do anything on His own, but only what He sees the Father doing. For whatever the Father does, the Son also does these things in the same way. 20 For the Father loves the Son and shows Him everything He is doing, and He will show Him greater works than these so that you will be amazed. 21 And just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, so the Son also gives life to anyone He wants to. 22 The Father, in fact, judges no one but has given all judgment to the Son, 23 so that all people will honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Anyone who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.

John 5:30
“I can do nothing on My own. I judge only as I hear, and My judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me."

Is doing healing in the Hospital your will, or the Fathers?

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I am writing to all the Churches and I enjoin all, that I am dying willingly for God's sake, if only you do not prevent it. I beg you, do not do me an untimely kindness. Allow me to be eaten by the beasts, which are my way of reaching to God. — Ignatius, Letter to the Romans

2 Corinthians 5:20, "We are therefore Christ’s ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ’s behalf: Be reconciled to God."

He told me three times to go into hospitals, I volunteered as a pastoral care visitor.

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Alan

Why are they different to those I see healed, the location is different that is all.

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Alan

Thank you for the advice.

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Alan

Have asked many times, sometimes I wonder about the spiritual stronghold.
I feel I am on my own as the chaplains I am under do not believe in the gifts.

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Alan

Okay, well remember, not even Jesus could do miracles where there lacked faith, so even if you have faith, if they don't there's not much you can do. Sometimes healing only comes as we have the discipline of fasting and prayer (Matthew 17:21). I would tell you since you know it's the Fathers will, to be bold and claim authority over those things in Jesus' Name, ask the Father who specifically in the hospital you should go too, I doubt it's everyone, and ask Him how He wants you to minister to them. Just remember that we can not do a single thing if the Father is not in it with us, or we try to do it our own way.

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I am writing to all the Churches and I enjoin all, that I am dying willingly for God's sake, if only you do not prevent it. I beg you, do not do me an untimely kindness. Allow me to be eaten by the beasts, which are my way of reaching to God. — Ignatius, Letter to the Romans

2 Corinthians 5:20, "We are therefore Christ’s ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ’s behalf: Be reconciled to God."