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Old 29th July 2012, 07:32 AM
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Ok so yesterday i didnt really believe in God or fear hell. Why cant i just say God before my ocd or super analytic time i believed in u no doubt. Now i just dont know please just dint let me go to hell if its there. Everyone says just be indifferent to the thoughts and see if i believe again or feel athiest or agnostic. What if i lose God? I want to know what i really nelieve though. Do i do continue to go to church and read arguments against Christ i do both should i continue but not debate in my head about it and see what feels natural?
today i feel sort of the same like i dont believe and dont care but my obsession may be just to be on here.

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Old 29th July 2012, 09:21 AM
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We all have our own personal unique struggle with sin, my dear friend. These struggles, be they addiction struggles, doubts and fears, unforgiveness, do not change God's Love for us. This is what makes God's love permanent: Because we cannot earn His love, we also cannot do anything to change or erase it.
Let me tell you about mine: I struggle with an addiction. It is a constant struggle, and sometimes I slip and fall. When I fall, I always repent and plan to never fall again, but I always wind up in the same boat. It hurts me when I fall, because I know that is NOT what God wants of me. There is no justification for it, no excuse.
But God still loves me through my struggle. Why? Because He is perfect, and He said in His Word that NOTHING shall keep His children from His love.
I feel it is so important to impress upon you how much God loves you, because I am feeling that you don't always feel His love. But even when you don't feel it, it is there. He is calling for you, or you wouldn't be seeking answer to your struggle. Answer it, and see how much He blesses you
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Old 29th July 2012, 09:22 AM
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I do have a question: When you talk about reading arguments against Christ, what do you mean?
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Old 29th July 2012, 09:51 AM
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don't read arguments against Christ don't you see that you are in the midst of temptations, reading that stuff is like drinking poison for you. It hardens your heart
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Old 29th July 2012, 10:30 AM
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I mean athiestic articles. I was told by someone here that I will.not truly know if I am agnostic, athiest , or Christian unless I do the same things I normally do but dont debate about which is right. also be indifferent towards hell. Since I read Chrixtian and athiest stuff if I do this with the stance of indifference I will be able to know what I rationally believe because as it has been flr three years I think God is irrational but I fear I could be wrong. If I only read Christian stuff I am feeding faith. If I only read zthiestic stuff I am feeding that so I am choosing. He said if I choose indifference and do what I normally do. Read both but dont debate or fear the conxequences. I will know what is most rational
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Old 29th July 2012, 10:31 AM
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I will find out I am agnostic and not fear hell or athiesm or realize I am christian.
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Old 29th July 2012, 12:04 PM
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Ack! That's a lie of the devil! Listen, beautiful Raven, its not about knowing what you believe, God said lean not unto your own understanding. Exposing yourself continually to anything that goes against God's Word, no matter WHAT state you are in, agreement, disagreement, or indifference, will affect your beliefs. God is not the author of confusion, and He would not sanction doing ANYthing that would confuse you! Believing in God, in the end, is a choice, because He gave us the free will to believe or not. It truly is the better choice, but it is still a choice.

You become what you expose yourself to. Right now, you are exposing yourself to two sides of an issue, so its no wonder you find yourself doubting! And the problem is, most atheistic beliefs are so deeply rooted that they SOUND like they make sense!

I ask you, do you truly desire to believe in God? Please answer, I am coming to you in a spirit of Love, I promise you that.
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Old 29th July 2012, 12:20 PM
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Everyone wants to but some people cant.
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I am starting not to even worry I dont believe
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Old 29th July 2012, 01:13 PM
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No. Jesus died as payment for every man's sin, and His salvation is a gift freely given to all. Faith is not something that magically gets downloaded to a select few, although that is what some Christians will have you believe. Before you can fully believe in the fullness of God, you have to give your heart over to Him. You have to take the step to accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior.
The devil wants you to think you need to understand first, and I can see he has you believing that as if it were truth. But the real Truth is, the gift of eternal life is freely available to you, no strings attached. All He wants is for you to take that step my friend. Will you?
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