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28th July 2012, 10:59 AM
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Well, i guess its safe to say that the entire World has bought into the sexual hedonism mantra of 'get it while you can' ; looks like London has signed up to be the international STD Mecca to the World (since Condoms DONT stop all STD's plus they tear, rip, and come off in times of passion) . Another obvious outcome will be a trip to Ones local Walk-in Abortion Mill due to sexual hedonism gone further wrong.
Just when you think societal moral degradation had topped off ..... | 
28th July 2012, 11:08 AM
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This is hardly new, this has been reported on at previous Olympics. You have a bunch of incredibly fit and attractive people from all corners of the world involved in an emotional competition for the best in their field. What exactly do you expect is going to happen? has signed up to be the international STD Mecca to the World (since Condoms DONT stop all STD's plus they tear, rip, and come off in times of passion) .
No duh they don't stop STDs in every instance, but I've not seen any official source saying that they do. They stop it a heck of a lot better than having unprotected sex though, which is their function. Another obvious outcome will be a trip to Ones local Walk-in Abortion Mill due to sexual hedonism gone further wrong.
Well don't complain about giving condoms out then Just when you think societal moral degradation had topped off .....
Just when you think someone couldn't spin this tired trope any further.
It's all very well simply repeating "Don't do that! No, don't that!" over and over again, a subset of people are still going to do as they please. Now, you can deal with the negative consequences or you can not. Do Christians actually want to reduce harm, or do they simply want to be right?
If you're actually making the claim that these actions are wrong based on their consequences - more sensible than expecting everyone to believe your holy texts, for one - then the view needs modification when the consequences are lessened by technology etc.
These people are going to get jiggy no matter how fauxtraged Christians get - and given how cheap condoms are, there is no reason not to include a few in case. | 
28th July 2012, 11:48 AM
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No duh they don't stop STDs in every instance, but I've not seen any official source saying that they do. They stop it a heck of a lot better than having unprotected sex though, which is their function.
Well don't complain about giving condoms out then
Just when you think someone couldn't spin this tired trope any further.
It's all very well simply repeating "Don't do that! No, don't that!" over and over again, a subset of people are still going to do as they please. Now, you can deal with the negative consequences or you can not. Do Christians actually want to reduce harm, or do they simply want to be right?
If you're actually making the claim that these actions are wrong based on their consequences - more sensible than expecting everyone to believe your holy texts, for one - then the view needs modification when the consequences are lessened by technology etc.
These people are going to get jiggy no matter how fauxtraged Christians get - and given how cheap condoms are, there is no reason not to include a few in case.
Your post confirms what occurs when people would rather have a reprobate mind than have moral integrity .
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28th July 2012, 11:57 AM
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If you are worried abut STD transmission and unwanted pregnancies I would think that you would support things that reduce them or would you rather see people suffer when they violate your moral code? | 
28th July 2012, 12:35 PM
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17 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:
2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.
3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
5 And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of whores And Abominations Of The Earth.
6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.
7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.
8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.
18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.
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28th July 2012, 12:51 PM
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Reps: 48,283,437,360,629,160 (power: 48,283,437,360,632) | | Originally Posted by Desk trauma If you are worried abut STD transmission and unwanted pregnancies I would think that you would support things that reduce them or would you rather see people suffer when they violate your moral code?
1. Its not 'my' moral code ; its the objective moral code that has been prescribed in the fibre of every person on Earth --- the intrinsic Moral Code which people are required to obey and not willfully suppress / veto so they can use another human being for a mere copulation then move onto the next sexual immoral quest.
1.a. Have you acquired a morality-phobia along the way , and if so, how did that come about for yourself ? I was once at that place for a good number of years as a practicing atheist-heathenist until Christ radically changed my life .
2. Im concerned about any Organization (or person) that flagrantly promotes/endorses a highly dangerous lifestyle (sexual hedonism) where its Players have lost their lives prematurely from at least two widespread fatal STD's in circulation plus many others that last a lifetime without a cure .
2.a. It seems this strikes an apathetic-chord with yourself and other Heathens as evidenced by your posts in this thread ? Isnt it noble to take a concerned proactive stand against that which is wrong and very harmful to society as opposed to not really caring about it (?)
3. I DO support moral measures that reduce STD contraction and unwanted pregnancies which is why i support abstinence and Godly living ; Conversely, flooding a society with condoms which are not foolproof and telling the masses to have as much sexual hedonism as they can muster up leads to greater unwanted pregnancies and murdering of developing unborn human beings in addition to greater spread of STD's due to sexual hedonism gone (further) wrong , because of increased wrongful activity . Americas current STD Epidemic of 39 harmful STD's shared among 65,000,000 adult Americans with 15,000,000 new cases added annually (not including 1 in 6 middle-schoolers having an std) is proof positive that the 'safe sex' mantra is nothing but a fraudulent myth .
(Sources : CDC, Kaiser Family Foundation, Avert Institution).
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28th July 2012, 12:59 PM
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Reps: 301,272,253,198,615,424 (power: 0) | | I DO support moral measures that reduce STD contraction and unwanted pregnancies which is why i support abstinence and Godly living ; Conversely, flooding a society with condoms which are not foolproof and telling the masses to have as much sexual hedonism as they can muster up leads to greater unwanted pregnancies and murdering of developing unborn human beings in addition to greater spread of STD's due to sexual hedonism gone (further) wrong , due to increased activity . Americas current STD Epidemic of 39 harmful STD's shared among 65,000,000 adult Americans with 15,000,000 new cases added annually (not including 1 in 6 middle-schoolers having an std) is proof positive that 'safe sex' is nothing but a myth .
Who's telling "the masses to have as much sexual hedonism as they can muster up "?
Are Olympic athletes considered "the masses" now? | 
28th July 2012, 01:05 PM
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Reps: 48,631,479,443,142,656 (power: 48,631,479,443,145) | | Originally Posted by TheyCallMeDave 1. Its not 'my' moral code ; its the objective moral code that has been prescribed in the fibre of every person on Earth --- the intrinsic Moral Code which people are required to obey and not willfully suppress / veto so they can use another human being for a mere copulation then move onto the next sexual immoral quest.
Other then your say so on what do you base your idea that your take on sexual morals is somehow built into humans? Originally Posted by TheyCallMeDave 1.a. Have you acquired a morality-phobia along the way , and if so, how did that come about for yourself ? I was once at that place for a good number of years as a practicing atheist-heathenist until Christ radically changed my life .
I do not have an irrational fear or hatred of your sexual morals, I just disagree. Originally Posted by TheyCallMeDave 2. Im concerned about any Organization (or person) that flagrantly promotes/endorses a highly dangerous lifestyle (sexual hedonism) where its Players have lost their lives prematurely from at least two widespread fatal STD's in circulation plus many others that last a lifetime without a cure .
Providing adults with a means of lowering their chances of STD transmission does not suddenly make sex mandatory, they are free to keep their genitalia to them selves. Originally Posted by TheyCallMeDave 2.a. It seems this strikes an apathetic-chord with yourself and other Heathens as evidenced by your posts in this thread ? Isnt it noble to take a concerned proactive stand against that which is wrong and very harmful to society as opposed to not really caring about it (?)
Not when your "proactive stand" is to be against measures that lowed the rates of STDs and unwanted pregnancies. Originally Posted by TheyCallMeDave 3. I DO support moral measures that reduce STD contraction and unwanted pregnancies which is why i support abstinence and Godly living ;
By all means, just win people over to your view then no matter how many condoms are handed out they will go unused.
Out of curiosity do you oppose the HPV vaccination? | 
28th July 2012, 01:09 PM
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Are Olympic athletes considered "the masses" now?
1. What do you think is behind the distribution of 150,000 condoms (amounting to approx. 15 per person) all about then ??? The worlds biggest water balloon fight ?!
2. Yes, thousands of Athletes coming from all over the world representing their individual Country converging at a singular location , are considered a Mass ; do you consider it a garden party ?! | 
28th July 2012, 01:24 PM
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Well, i guess its safe to say that the entire World has bought into the sexual hedonism mantra of 'get it while you can' ; looks like London has signed up to be the international STD Mecca to the World (since Condoms DONT stop all STD's plus they tear, rip, and come off in times of passion) . Another obvious outcome will be a trip to Ones local Walk-in Abortion Mill due to sexual hedonism gone further wrong.
Just when you think societal moral degradation had topped off .....
Are you against anti-conception?
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