Home | Be a Christian | Devotionals | Join Us! | Forums | Rules | F.A.Q.


Go Back   Christian Forums > Edification (orthodox Christians only) > Edification (orthodox Christians only) > Christian Advice
Register BlogsPrayersJobsArcade Calendar Mark Forums Read

Christian Advice A forum for requesting and giving Biblical advice.

Reply
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Unread 12th July 2012, 11:54 AM
Jenster's Avatar
None greater than YOU, O Lord!

Gender: Female Faith: Christian Country: United States Member For 5 Years Fisherman
 
Join Date: 29th June 2004
Posts: 9,369
Blessings: 199,977
My Mood Asleep
Reps: 133,830,909,899,857,344 (power: 133,830,909,899,877)
Jenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond repute
Jenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond repute
Question about good deeds done in secret

The Bible talks about doing good deeds for others but not running around telling people about them.

I know someone who does things for others, which I think is nice. Things like bringing over dinner after someone's had a baby, or visiting someone who is down.

But she also talks about each of these good deeds, and I have a hard time listening because it feels like she's trying to make everyone admire her for being a "good person." She usually phrases it as, "Oh, I was SO busy last night because I brought dinner over to Susie," or "Have you heard? Lisa's not feeling well, and I was over visiting her last night," or "I just finished organizing a HUGE party for Nancy's birthday. Everyone had such a good time at it."

Am I being judgmental? How should I handle my reaction to her? Part of me thinks I should go ahead and tell her what she obviously wants, which is that she's a wonderful person for doing such nice things for other people all the time. But I do believe good deeds should be done not to get credit but for the joy of serving others.
__________________


" 'So do not fear, O Jacob my servant; do not be dismayed, O Israel,' declares the LORD. 'I will surely save you out of a distant place, your descendants from the land of their exile. Jacob will again have peace and security, and no one will make him afraid.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Reply With Quote
Become a CF Site Supporter Today and Make These Ads Go Away!

  #2  
Unread 12th July 2012, 12:02 PM
SharonL's Avatar
Senior Veteran

Gender: Female Married Faith: Christian Country: United States Member For 5 Years
View Profile Pic
 
Join Date: 15th October 2005
Location: Texas
Posts: 9,895
Blessings: 200,137,577
Blog Entries: 3
Reps: 1,427,210,123,371,463,168 (power: 1,427,210,123,371,481)
SharonL has a reputation beyond reputeSharonL has a reputation beyond reputeSharonL has a reputation beyond reputeSharonL has a reputation beyond reputeSharonL has a reputation beyond reputeSharonL has a reputation beyond reputeSharonL has a reputation beyond reputeSharonL has a reputation beyond reputeSharonL has a reputation beyond reputeSharonL has a reputation beyond reputeSharonL has a reputation beyond reputeSharonL has a reputation beyond reputeSharonL has a reputation beyond reputeSharonL has a reputation beyond reputeSharonL has a reputation beyond repute
SharonL has a reputation beyond reputeSharonL has a reputation beyond reputeSharonL has a reputation beyond reputeSharonL has a reputation beyond reputeSharonL has a reputation beyond reputeSharonL has a reputation beyond reputeSharonL has a reputation beyond reputeSharonL has a reputation beyond reputeSharonL has a reputation beyond reputeSharonL has a reputation beyond reputeSharonL has a reputation beyond reputeSharonL has a reputation beyond reputeSharonL has a reputation beyond reputeSharonL has a reputation beyond reputeSharonL has a reputation beyond repute
The Bible says that if we brag about our good deeds that is our only reward. We should go about God's business in helping others and God will give us our rewards.

I love doing for people behind the scenes. It is a good feeling knowing that it is just between you and God.
__________________
Be Blessed
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Unread 12th July 2012, 12:06 PM
He rescued me because He delighted in me (Ps18:19)

62 Gender: Male Faith: Baptist Party: US-Republican Country: United States Member For 5 Years Commander
View Profile Pic
 
Join Date: 23rd June 2006
Location: Blue Springs, Missouri
Posts: 14,284
Blessings: 347,756
My Mood Amazed
Reps: 125,318,198,410,229,440 (power: 0)
IisJustMe has a reputation beyond reputeIisJustMe has a reputation beyond reputeIisJustMe has a reputation beyond reputeIisJustMe has a reputation beyond reputeIisJustMe has a reputation beyond reputeIisJustMe has a reputation beyond reputeIisJustMe has a reputation beyond reputeIisJustMe has a reputation beyond reputeIisJustMe has a reputation beyond reputeIisJustMe has a reputation beyond reputeIisJustMe has a reputation beyond reputeIisJustMe has a reputation beyond reputeIisJustMe has a reputation beyond reputeIisJustMe has a reputation beyond reputeIisJustMe has a reputation beyond repute
IisJustMe has a reputation beyond reputeIisJustMe has a reputation beyond reputeIisJustMe has a reputation beyond reputeIisJustMe has a reputation beyond reputeIisJustMe has a reputation beyond reputeIisJustMe has a reputation beyond reputeIisJustMe has a reputation beyond reputeIisJustMe has a reputation beyond reputeIisJustMe has a reputation beyond reputeIisJustMe has a reputation beyond reputeIisJustMe has a reputation beyond reputeIisJustMe has a reputation beyond reputeIisJustMe has a reputation beyond reputeIisJustMe has a reputation beyond reputeIisJustMe has a reputation beyond repute
Sharon's right. Also, in your example of "Lisa" it is actually a form of gossip, so she is compounding the sin. Someone should take her aside and gently persuade her of what she is doing and help her repent.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Unread 12th July 2012, 12:23 PM
turkle's Avatar
Blessed

Gender: Female Married Faith: Christian Country: United States Member For 5 Years
 
Join Date: 25th January 2004
Posts: 438
Blessings: 131,288
My Mood Joyful
Reps: 59,739,977,431,503,440 (power: 59,739,977,431,514)
turkle has a reputation beyond reputeturkle has a reputation beyond reputeturkle has a reputation beyond reputeturkle has a reputation beyond reputeturkle has a reputation beyond reputeturkle has a reputation beyond reputeturkle has a reputation beyond reputeturkle has a reputation beyond reputeturkle has a reputation beyond reputeturkle has a reputation beyond reputeturkle has a reputation beyond reputeturkle has a reputation beyond reputeturkle has a reputation beyond reputeturkle has a reputation beyond reputeturkle has a reputation beyond repute
turkle has a reputation beyond reputeturkle has a reputation beyond reputeturkle has a reputation beyond reputeturkle has a reputation beyond reputeturkle has a reputation beyond reputeturkle has a reputation beyond reputeturkle has a reputation beyond reputeturkle has a reputation beyond reputeturkle has a reputation beyond reputeturkle has a reputation beyond reputeturkle has a reputation beyond reputeturkle has a reputation beyond reputeturkle has a reputation beyond reputeturkle has a reputation beyond reputeturkle has a reputation beyond repute
The Bible tells us not to do things for the praise of man, only for the praise of God. However, what your friend is doing is between her and God. It is not for you to correct. Your reaction should be polite and gracious.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Unread 12th July 2012, 12:58 PM
Seed Planter

Gender: Female Married Faith: Calvary-Chapel Member For 3 Years
View Profile Pic
 
Join Date: 19th July 2011
Posts: 5,693
Blessings: 614,630
My Mood Blessed
Blog Entries: 7
Reps: 333,036,312,193,174,592 (power: 333,036,312,193,183)
BFine has disabled reputation
If you tried to correct her, no matter how politely or privately it's done
she would take it the wrong way -- avoid that, take the matter before the
Lord and let Him deal with her in His own way.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Unread 12th July 2012, 01:47 PM
Pal Handy's Avatar
Irregular Member

Gender: Male Married Faith: Non-Denominational Country: United States Member For 3 Years
View Profile Pic
 
Join Date: 15th June 2011
Location: Southeast Michigan
Posts: 3,691
Blessings: 30,648,622
My Mood Blessed
Reps: 318,642,954,194,926,848 (power: 318,642,954,194,933)
Pal Handy has a reputation beyond reputePal Handy has a reputation beyond reputePal Handy has a reputation beyond reputePal Handy has a reputation beyond reputePal Handy has a reputation beyond reputePal Handy has a reputation beyond reputePal Handy has a reputation beyond reputePal Handy has a reputation beyond reputePal Handy has a reputation beyond reputePal Handy has a reputation beyond reputePal Handy has a reputation beyond reputePal Handy has a reputation beyond reputePal Handy has a reputation beyond reputePal Handy has a reputation beyond reputePal Handy has a reputation beyond repute
Pal Handy has a reputation beyond reputePal Handy has a reputation beyond reputePal Handy has a reputation beyond reputePal Handy has a reputation beyond reputePal Handy has a reputation beyond reputePal Handy has a reputation beyond reputePal Handy has a reputation beyond reputePal Handy has a reputation beyond reputePal Handy has a reputation beyond reputePal Handy has a reputation beyond reputePal Handy has a reputation beyond reputePal Handy has a reputation beyond reputePal Handy has a reputation beyond reputePal Handy has a reputation beyond reputePal Handy has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by Jenster View Post
The Bible talks about doing good deeds for others but not running around telling people about them.

I know someone who does things for others, which I think is nice. Things like bringing over dinner after someone's had a baby, or visiting someone who is down.

But she also talks about each of these good deeds, and I have a hard time listening because it feels like she's trying to make everyone admire her for being a "good person." She usually phrases it as, "Oh, I was SO busy last night because I brought dinner over to Susie," or "Have you heard? Lisa's not feeling well, and I was over visiting her last night," or "I just finished organizing a HUGE party for Nancy's birthday. Everyone had such a good time at it."

Am I being judgmental? How should I handle my reaction to her? Part of me thinks I should go ahead and tell her what she obviously wants, which is that she's a wonderful person for doing such nice things for other people all the time. But I do believe good deeds should be done not to get credit but for the joy of serving others.
At least she does something to help someone so what
is more important, to sit by and do nothing or to help
others and gain some joy from the good that she has done for others through Christ
by sharing it with other trusted Christians, who hopefully will share in her joy.


I think that she is a little needy and does want people to esteem
her good works but I think that her motive as a Christian are based in
her service to Her Lord and I believe is her real motivation here.

There is something to be said for doing your good deeds in
private but sometimes that is not possible when your work involves serving others directly.

Matthew 5:16
In the same way, let your light shine before others,
that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven.

So according to scripture she is openly serving others and giving glory
to God who she claims is her motivation for all the good she is doing.

Don't be too hard on those who put a face on Christ's love and help
others through their face to face acts of kindness.

Don't be too hard on those who come to Christian brothers and sisters
and recount what they have done in the hope that they will receive some
praise, validation and encouragement to continue in their good deeds.

It seems like to me we want to put others down for making their good deeds known because we feel uncomfortable with their actions and we realize that we have no desire to serve other in the same way.

Have some grace and mercy on her and pray that God would use her to help
others to see the face of Jesus Christ and His love by her simple acts of kindness.

Every time you hear her tell of her acts of kindness, pray for her and do not think the worse
of her by her wanting to share what is to her a high calling of serving others that Christ has
given to her to do.


I knew a dear and departed friend who would do all kinds of small acts
of kindness to the people in her community.

If she heard that someone was sick she would make a fresh pot of chicken soup and
take it over and comfort and encourage them.

I tell you that her funeral was one of the largest I had ever seen and the
church was standing room only.

Her little acts of kindness had touched so many in her community as
story after story came out of her charitable acts of Christ's kindness
were recounted at her funeral.

I remember how I use to be annoyed by her telling me what she had done for so and so and
I began to pray and examine my heart and I did not like what I saw.

I saw envy, jealousy, resentment and pride and I realized that
I was not loving and supporting my friend as I would have wanted others to
support and rejoice with me when I recounted something God had done in my life.

This friend was not telling strangers how wonderful she was, she was telling
a trusted friend and brother in Christ what God had done in and through her.

She was sharing the workings of Christ in her life with me not out of
pride but as any close and loving friend would share their heart with another
close and intimate friend.

Don't be too hard on her because this world has far to little acts
of love and kindness in it so encourage her to continue to allow
the love of Christ to shine through her to others.
__________________
2 Cor 5:21
For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.

Last edited by Pal Handy; 12th July 2012 at 05:46 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Unread 12th July 2012, 02:07 PM
Puptart's Avatar
Live, Laugh, Love.. and adopt a dog :)

32 Gender: Female Married Faith: Muslim Party: CA-NDP Country: Canada Member For 2 Years Soldier
View Profile Pic
 
Join Date: 14th May 2012
Location: Port Coquitlam, BC, Canada
Posts: 951
Blessings: 18,862
My Mood Inspired
Reps: 214,878,972,424,811,200 (power: 214,878,972,424,814)
Puptart has a reputation beyond reputePuptart has a reputation beyond reputePuptart has a reputation beyond reputePuptart has a reputation beyond reputePuptart has a reputation beyond reputePuptart has a reputation beyond reputePuptart has a reputation beyond reputePuptart has a reputation beyond reputePuptart has a reputation beyond reputePuptart has a reputation beyond reputePuptart has a reputation beyond reputePuptart has a reputation beyond reputePuptart has a reputation beyond reputePuptart has a reputation beyond reputePuptart has a reputation beyond repute
Puptart has a reputation beyond reputePuptart has a reputation beyond reputePuptart has a reputation beyond reputePuptart has a reputation beyond reputePuptart has a reputation beyond reputePuptart has a reputation beyond reputePuptart has a reputation beyond reputePuptart has a reputation beyond reputePuptart has a reputation beyond reputePuptart has a reputation beyond reputePuptart has a reputation beyond reputePuptart has a reputation beyond reputePuptart has a reputation beyond reputePuptart has a reputation beyond reputePuptart has a reputation beyond repute
I think she's bragging a little bit, but that's her problem and not yours, so I'd just sort of tune it out.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Reply With Quote
  #8  
Unread 12th July 2012, 05:20 PM
Ark100's Avatar
The Lord is my Refuge

Gender: Female Faith: Pentecostal Country: Australia Member For 2 Years
View Profile Pic
 
Join Date: 11th March 2012
Posts: 2,062
Blessings: 1,087,414
My Mood Blessed
Reps: 91,364,056,413,858,976 (power: 91,364,056,413,863)
Ark100 has a reputation beyond reputeArk100 has a reputation beyond reputeArk100 has a reputation beyond reputeArk100 has a reputation beyond reputeArk100 has a reputation beyond reputeArk100 has a reputation beyond reputeArk100 has a reputation beyond reputeArk100 has a reputation beyond reputeArk100 has a reputation beyond reputeArk100 has a reputation beyond reputeArk100 has a reputation beyond reputeArk100 has a reputation beyond reputeArk100 has a reputation beyond reputeArk100 has a reputation beyond reputeArk100 has a reputation beyond repute
Ark100 has a reputation beyond reputeArk100 has a reputation beyond reputeArk100 has a reputation beyond reputeArk100 has a reputation beyond reputeArk100 has a reputation beyond reputeArk100 has a reputation beyond reputeArk100 has a reputation beyond reputeArk100 has a reputation beyond reputeArk100 has a reputation beyond reputeArk100 has a reputation beyond reputeArk100 has a reputation beyond reputeArk100 has a reputation beyond reputeArk100 has a reputation beyond reputeArk100 has a reputation beyond reputeArk100 has a reputation beyond repute
She must have some issues about feeling recognized or loved for what she's doing. Maybe she has some self esteem issues?
I think constant telling everyone of what you do and did for others is like rewarding yourself already without allowing God to do it.
Hope she changes, if the Holy Spirit puts it in her heart or correct her.
As for you, if you cant stand it, maybe do something else while she's bragging, or if you can stomach it, pull her gently aside sometime and gently let her know God rewards people who do things between them and God without feeling the need to tell everyone else..
She may not know this, and may appreciate if someone tells her kindly. Tell her with love. We are all our brothehrs and sisters keepers, we dont have to fold our arms all the time because we want to avoid being honest. Truth hurts sometimes and some people need to hear it to help them
__________________
If God is for us, who can ever be against us? Since he did not spare even his own Son but gave him up for us all, wonít he also give us everything else?

Who dares accuse us whom God has chosen for his own? No oneófor God himself has given us right standing with himself.
Who then will condemn us? No oneófor Christ Jesus died for us and was raised to life for us, and he is sitting in the place of honor at Godís right hand, pleading for us - Romans 8

I LOVE YOU JESUS!!!!!
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Unread 12th July 2012, 11:25 PM
Jenster's Avatar
None greater than YOU, O Lord!

Gender: Female Faith: Christian Country: United States Member For 5 Years Fisherman
 
Join Date: 29th June 2004
Posts: 9,369
Blessings: 199,977
My Mood Asleep
Reps: 133,830,909,899,857,344 (power: 133,830,909,899,877)
Jenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond repute
Jenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond reputeJenster has a reputation beyond repute
I don't know what I'd do without this forum or without you kind folks to give me your thoughts and advice and understanding. Thank you so much. I feel relieved to know that you understand what I'm talking about and feeling, but I also feel challenged by your advice to either talk with her (gently, in love) or encourage her good deeds by being supportive.

The reason I posted about this is because I do feel conflicted -- wanting to be supportive and yet only "hearing" the bragging part. I think her motives are perhaps mixed. She revels in being involved with other people (it aligns with her values and gives her something interesting to talk about as well) and at the same time, she likes attention, which leads her to "make" a bit too much of what she does.

I am afraid she might not receive my feedback well, as BFine suggested might happen. But I will consider it and see if the Lord opens up any door in that area. I am worried that she might interpret what I have to say as opposition to her getting any attention, as she can be pretty stubborn.

Pal Handy, just wanted to thank you for sharing your story of feeling annoyed by the woman but then being convicted by the Holy Spirit. I see the beauty in your advice to be supportive of her good works. I will pray that I can be gracious, and leave the rest to the Lord.

Blessings to you all.
__________________


" 'So do not fear, O Jacob my servant; do not be dismayed, O Israel,' declares the LORD. 'I will surely save you out of a distant place, your descendants from the land of their exile. Jacob will again have peace and security, and no one will make him afraid.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Reply With Quote
  #10  
Unread 12th July 2012, 11:31 PM
what are you waiting for?

Gender: Male Faith: Christian Party: US-Others Country: United States Member For 2 Years
View Profile Pic
 
Join Date: 5th April 2012
Location: at my house
Posts: 4,806
Blessings: 2,040,804
My Mood Where
Reps: 1,568,110,785,794,238,208 (power: 0)
renewed21 has a reputation beyond reputerenewed21 has a reputation beyond reputerenewed21 has a reputation beyond reputerenewed21 has a reputation beyond reputerenewed21 has a reputation beyond reputerenewed21 has a reputation beyond reputerenewed21 has a reputation beyond reputerenewed21 has a reputation beyond reputerenewed21 has a reputation beyond reputerenewed21 has a reputation beyond reputerenewed21 has a reputation beyond reputerenewed21 has a reputation beyond reputerenewed21 has a reputation beyond reputerenewed21 has a reputation beyond reputerenewed21 has a reputation beyond repute
renewed21 has a reputation beyond reputerenewed21 has a reputation beyond reputerenewed21 has a reputation beyond reputerenewed21 has a reputation beyond reputerenewed21 has a reputation beyond reputerenewed21 has a reputation beyond reputerenewed21 has a reputation beyond reputerenewed21 has a reputation beyond reputerenewed21 has a reputation beyond reputerenewed21 has a reputation beyond reputerenewed21 has a reputation beyond reputerenewed21 has a reputation beyond reputerenewed21 has a reputation beyond reputerenewed21 has a reputation beyond reputerenewed21 has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by Puptart View Post
I think she's bragging a little bit, but that's her problem and not yours, so I'd just sort of tune it out.
This is my recomendation if you two are just aquaintences. If you two are close, then tell her the truth. IMO
Reply With Quote
Reply


Return to Christian Advice

Thread Tools
Display Modes


 
Become a CF Site Supporter Today and Make These Ads Go Away!


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:54 PM.