multiple lifetimes

tturt · #1 11th July 2012, 09:57 AM

Sometimes I'm not up-to-date on terminology usages. So this question -

Earlier multiple lifetimes meant folks who believed in reincarnation which meant they believed once they died, they returned to earth as someone else or something else.

Also, it seems some believe in multiple lifetimes because of the resurrections in Scripture.
1 - Luke 7:14-15 Yeshua "And he came and touched the bier: and they that bare him stood still. And he said, Young man, I say unto thee, Arise. And he that was dead sat up, and began to speak. And he delivered him to his mother.:
2 - Mark 5:41-42 - Jarius' daughter - Yeshua "...took the damsel by the hand, and said unto her, Talitha cumi; which is, being interpreted, Damsel, I say unto thee, arise. And straightway the damsel arose, and walked;"
3 - John 11:43-44 Yeshua "And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth. And he that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot with graveclothes: and his face was bound about with a napkin. Jesus saith unto them, Loose him, and let him go."

But those who were resurrected came back as themselves not as someone else or something else.

I can see where someone might interpret multiple lifetimes to mean once we die a physical death, we then have an eternal life.

So generally is multiple lifetimes a new way to say and mean reincarnation as defined above? Or not?

didaskalos · #2 11th July 2012, 05:14 PM

There is always "to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord..."
That may preclude the possibility of a return to a new (unborn) body.

now faith · #3 11th July 2012, 05:49 PM

The raising of the dead by Christ, has no similar events that are taught in reincarnation. Christ raised the same bodies the same souls. Reincarnation is a pseudo religion based on a persons thoughts that they had lived before and are going to manifest into something else animal or human. It is pure fiction made up by new age hippies :-) who were probably on drugs when this theory was invented. Where I live there is a spiritual center most of the people here are over 55 and they are now old hippies, the center has every kind of idol or false teaching you can think of with tons of healing trinkets and snake oil . They even had a white non American Indian , doing animal spirit chant dancing, PT Barnum would have been proud.

tturt · #4 17th July 2012, 07:56 AM

Yes I know what we believe isn't anything like reincarnation. I guess the term "multiple lifetimes" is new terminology for it and they even posted Scripture. But I didn't see what they saw.

ABlessedMan · #5 17th July 2012, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by tturt

Sometimes I'm not up-to-date on terminology usages. So this question -

Earlier multiple lifetimes meant folks who believed in reincarnation which meant they believed once they died, they returned to earth as someone else or something else.

Also, it seems some believe in multiple lifetimes because of the resurrections in Scripture.
1 - Luke 7:14-15 Yeshua "And he came and touched the bier: and they that bare him stood still. And he said, Young man, I say unto thee, Arise. And he that was dead sat up, and began to speak. And he delivered him to his mother.:
2 - Mark 5:41-42 - Jarius' daughter - Yeshua "...took the damsel by the hand, and said unto her, Talitha cumi; which is, being interpreted, Damsel, I say unto thee, arise. And straightway the damsel arose, and walked;"
3 - John 11:43-44 Yeshua "And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth. And he that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot with graveclothes: and his face was bound about with a napkin. Jesus saith unto them, Loose him, and let him go."

But those who were resurrected came back as themselves not as someone else or something else.

I can see where someone might interpret multiple lifetimes to mean once we die a physical death, we then have an eternal life.

So generally is multiple lifetimes a new way to say and mean reincarnation as defined above? Or not?

Hmm.

The word "reincarnate" means to be "reborn in another body." Technically, since "incarnate" means to be embodied in flesh and the "re-" means "again" once can imply that raising from the dead is a form of reincarnation. That's being technical.

Now stop.

Reincarnation has a connotation. It is the process (fantasy) that one will be reborn into a "next life," and into a new body -- whether that be human or animal depending upon your karma.

Reincarnation is a concept that is in many old religions (not started by the hippies

), pagans, Buddists, some Muslim sects, and it is a major concept of Hinduism (and other Indian religions). It is the manner in which one works their way up the "ladder" to Nirvana -- their version of heaven. It is all works based. If you have a good life (good karma) then you come back in a higher form (if human, more power and influence); if bad (bad karma) then you come back as a lower form (less power and influence, poverty; or as an animal).

It must be stressed that the connotation of the word "reincarnation" leaves no room for its adoption or use in concepts like raising the dead or the second coming. It does not belong in any form in Christianity. It would be very bad theology to attempt to use this term for any aspect within Chrisitianity, and for that matter for any concept outside of what the non-Christian religions use it for.

Reincarnation is a heresy.

TasManOfGod · #6 17th July 2012, 07:51 PM

Hebrews 9:27:
"It is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgement"

now faith · #7 20th July 2012, 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by ABlessedMan

Hmm.

The word "reincarnate" means to be "reborn in another body." Technically, since "incarnate" means to be embodied in flesh and the "re-" means "again" once can imply that raising from the dead is a form of reincarnation. That's being technical.

Now stop.

Reincarnation has a connotation. It is the process (fantasy) that one will be reborn into a "next life," and into a new body -- whether that be human or animal depending upon your karma.

Reincarnation is a concept that is in many old religions (not started by the hippies ), pagans, Buddists, some Muslim sects, and it is a major concept of Hinduism (and other Indian religions). It is the manner in which one works their way up the "ladder" to Nirvana -- their version of heaven. It is all works based. If you have a good life (good karma) then you come back in a higher form (if human, more power and influence); if bad (bad karma) then you come back as a lower form (less power and influence, poverty; or as an animal).

It must be stressed that the connotation of the word "reincarnation" leaves no room for its adoption or use in concepts like raising the dead or the second coming. It does not belong in any form in Christianity. It would be very bad theology to attempt to use this term for any aspect within Chrisitianity, and for that matter for any concept outside of what the non-Christian religions use it for.

Reincarnation is a heresy.

Nope it is a hippie thang man

ABlessedMan · #8 21st July 2012, 12:06 AM

Originally Posted by now faith

Nope it is a hippie thang man

you convinced me that easily. wow.