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4th July 2012, 10:58 PM
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5th July 2012, 12:16 AM
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Reps: 86,775,791,213,405,136 (power: 86,775,791,213,418) | | | Rules are rules I guess. Good for him for saying the person. I'm sure he'll find another job. To bad he wont be there to save someone else, in that area.
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5th July 2012, 02:19 AM
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Reps: 12,152,392,635,163,348 (power: 12,152,392,635,176) | | | It begs the question that if nobody else had bothered to try to help this swimmer and this lifeguard did, if he would still be fired.
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5th July 2012, 03:44 AM
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Reps: 86,775,791,213,405,136 (power: 86,775,791,213,418) | | Originally Posted by jlujan69  It begs the question that if nobody else had bothered to try to help this swimmer and this lifeguard did, if he would still be fired.
I wonder that too. I bet the guy would have been fired under media pressures. It's horrible to know your not worth being saved , if your in the wrong area.
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5th July 2012, 10:20 AM
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Reps: 102,424,986,520,591,152 (power: 102,424,986,520,596) | | Originally Posted by CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN I wonder that too. I bet the guy would have been fired under media pressures. It's horrible to know your not worth being saved , if your in the wrong area.
That's why we should always trust business owners to do the right thng.
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5th July 2012, 11:50 AM
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He was fired and rightly so for leaving an area that is supposed to have a lifeguard unprotected.
He left an area that is patroled and I'd assume marked as such to save someone swimming in an unpatrolled area. |
5th July 2012, 11:59 AM
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Reps: 1,713,291,315,093,753,856 (power: 1,713,291,315,093,767) | | Originally Posted by CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN I wonder that too. I bet the guy would have been fired under media pressures. It's horrible to know your not worth being saved , if your in the wrong area.
Reminds me of the fire department that refused to put out a house fire a few years back. Why? The person didn't pay some fee (was willing to do so right then and there with the fire going on...).
We can always trust private companies to do the right thing. No need for that gubmint to get in our bidness. ;-)
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5th July 2012, 12:09 PM
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Rules and regulations free us from having to make difficult, pesky moral choices. Isn't that fortunate for us? Hooray.
TV REPORTER: "Mr. Lifeguard, a man drowned today, 1500 feet from where you sat, doing nothing. How do you justify this?"
LIFEGUARD: "I was following the rules, which said I could not leave my area. If he drowned, well, that's too bad, but it's his own fault---he shouldn't have been swimming where there was no lifeguard. He got what he deserved." |
5th July 2012, 12:15 PM
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Reps: 1,713,291,315,093,753,856 (power: 1,713,291,315,093,767) | | Originally Posted by Wolseley More corroboration that common sense is indeed dead.
Rules and regulations free us from having to make difficult, pesky moral choices. Isn't that fortunate for us? Hooray.
TV REPORTER: "Mr. Lifeguard, a man drowned today, 1500 feet from where you sat, doing nothing. How do you justify this?"
LIFEGUARD: "I was following the rules, which said I could not leave my area. If he drowned, well, that's too bad, but it's his own fault---he shouldn't have been swimming where there was no lifeguard. He got what he deserved."
Business is business. If the kid wanted to be a hero, I am sure he could have found another private company that would have watched over other areas of the beach. ;-)
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Reps: 72,146,952,965,164,128 (power: 72,146,952,965,167) | | Originally Posted by keith99 No,
He was fired and rightly so for leaving an area that is supposed to have a lifeguard unprotected.
He left an area that is patroled and I'd assume marked as such to save someone swimming in an unpatrolled area.
This.
Rules exist for a reason, and in this case they exist to protect lives. The guy who was drowning had already been pulled out of the water by the time the lifeguard got there. If while he was away someone had drowned in his area, which is why he was hired in the first place, we'd be reading a totally different news article.
This is a good example of why our country is in such bad shape, people are swayed by emotional arguments and not the logical ones. Sure it feels good to help people, but taxing people and building a massive government debt is not the way to do it because it just hurts everyone in the long run. | | |
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