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The day when churches start teaching evolution to kids, that is the day when I will agree to schools teaching creationism. That is all.
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TE churches don't teach evolution?
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Nope.
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Reps: 40,520,555,868,544,144 (power: 40,520,555,868,555) | | Originally Posted by CabVet The day when churches start teaching evolution to kids, that is the day when I will agree to schools teaching creationism. That is all.
I wouldn't. Creationism shouldn't be taught in public school, irrespective of what churches do.
Anyway, teaching science in church sounds misplaced as well, though they could probably benefit from teaching people that they don't have to shun science. Also some lessons about humility might be in order, as many religious believers seem to consider themselves experts on science that they know little about.
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Churches shouldn't be teaching science at all -- it's not their job, and they wouldn't be very good at it. Churches should be teaching that Christian faith is compatible with acceptance of evolution, and many do. Our church, in fact, does teach high school kids a (very) little bit of evolution, as part of a four week class laying out Christian responses to science. (We're covering a little more of the science in an adult education class this fall, but that's likely to involve a small number of self-selected participants, while the high school class was for everyone in the high school group.) |
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Reps: 64,075,032,547,048,952 (power: 64,075,032,547,067) | | Originally Posted by sfs Churches shouldn't be teaching science at all -- it's not their job, and they wouldn't be very good at it. Churches should be teaching that Christian faith is compatible with acceptance of evolution, and many do. Our church, in fact, does teach high school kids a (very) little bit of evolution, as part of a four week class laying out Christian responses to science. (We're covering a little more of the science in an adult education class this fall, but that's likely to involve a small number of self-selected participants, while the high school class was for everyone in the high school group.)
Christians in a church SHOULD teach its congregation about the weakness of evolution. Unfortunately, a good Christian like you would probably not do that. Which does not mean you do not see the weakness of evolution. You simply do not want to talk about it. I have no problem to explain any strong evidence of evolution in any Sunday School class. But I will also tell people the weakness of those strong evidences. That is the way to be an honest and responsible Christian scientist.  |
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Reps: 65,704,132,951,745,912 (power: 65,704,132,951,758) | | Originally Posted by juvenissun Christians in a church SHOULD teach its congregation about the weakness of evolution. Unfortunately, a good Christian like you would probably not do that. Which does not mean you do not see the weakness of evolution. You simply do not want to talk about it. I have no problem to explain any strong evidence of evolution in any Sunday School class. But I will also tell people the weakness of those strong evidences. That is the way to be an honest and responsible Christian scientist.
What the heck are you talking about? What is it that you think I simply don't want to talk about? |
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Reps: 154,385,080,075,338,336 (power: 154,385,080,075,341) | | Originally Posted by juvenissun Christians in a church SHOULD teach its congregation about the weakness of evolution. Unfortunately, a good Christian like you would probably not do that. Which does not mean you do not see the weakness of evolution. You simply do not want to talk about it. I have no problem to explain any strong evidence of evolution in any Sunday School class. But I will also tell people the weakness of those strong evidences. That is the way to be an honest and responsible Christian scientist.
As you have demonstrated quite admirably on this forum that you know nothing about evolution, one can only wonder at the gall that allows you to talk confidently about its weaknesses. |
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And you can talk confidently about evolution's weaknesses?
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Scientists love finding weaknesses. Weaknesses are exciting. It means there's more work to do. | | |
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