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Originally Posted by Elias526 View Post
Darwin's daughter was not there and was not privy to the conversation that Darwin had with Lady Hope. Darwin could have had some christian beliefs that he would only talk about with people who were Christians. We know that he did not like persecution because of the story we hear when he tried talk to the sailors on the Beagle about the Bible and they laughed at him. There is a lot of speculation involved in this story. If people do not believe in death bed conversions then of course you do not believe he had one. I am not so sure that I believe in them either.
This is ridiculous at the least. I just finished reading "Darwin and the Barnacle" by Rebecca Scott, and the only speculation here is yours.

Lady Hope's "fabricated deathbed conversion" was first printed thirty two years after Darwin died. In fact, Darwin's family denies any such person ever visited Darwin, as there is no evidence she was even there. And we both know that given enough time, people can fabricate just about anything, see the book of "Mark" in the bible for an example of this.

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Originally Posted by Notedstrangeperson View Post
Yup. It's in the New Scientist link.
Well, the article only says they're sequencing his genome. I was thinking more along the lines of saving his precious gametes for baby-making purposes.

Speaking of baby tortoises, awwww!
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It's more wishful thinking on my part, than anything else.

I hate to think of anyone go to Hell.
Not as much as your god, apparently.
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Originally Posted by CaliforniaSun View Post
Not as much as your god, apparently.
God is a God of absolute and perfect Justice. People will get their reward in life. Good for doing good, evil if they do evil. Some of the atheists believe in Karma and what comes around goes around more then Christians. Many of them profess that we need to be good and live a good life. No one wants to spend their life looking back to see if they are going to get caught for doing something they should not have done.
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God is a God of absolute and perfect Justice.

Hypothetically speaking, do you believe that if Hitler had accepted Jesus into his heart ten seconds before he blew his brains out, he would be in heaven with god?
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Originally Posted by CaliforniaSun View Post
Hypothetically speaking, do you believe that if Hitler had accepted Jesus into his heart ten seconds before he blew his brains out, he would be in heaven with god?
I do not do hypothetical but Jesus is life so when you accept Jesus that means you choose life not death. To be saved means we accept God's gift of eternal life.
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Originally Posted by Elias526 View Post
I do not do hypothetical but Jesus is life so when you accept Jesus that means you choose life not death. To be saved means we accept God's gift of eternal life.
For the record, faith in god is a gambit in hypotheticals, but I digress.

So Hitler would be chillin' with god, and all of those millions murdered by his command, who did not accept Jesus would be in hell?
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Originally Posted by CaliforniaSun View Post
For the record, faith in god is a gambit in hypotheticals, but I digress.

So Hitler would be chillin' with god, and all of those millions murdered by his command, who did not accept Jesus would be in hell?
Sorry, but that's just the way it is. God doesn't have to be "fair."

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