Who/What Do You Think is the Word of God?

Phantasman · #11 25th June 2012, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by spelz

Amen brother.

Satan has openly quoted from the Bible against Jesus. When that which is perfect is come, that which is imperfect shall be done away. The Bible is imperfect, while Christ is perfect. I'll put my faith into Christ and into the teachings of the Holy Spirit, something that Satan cannot touch. It has been proven to me that the author of confusion (Satan) has used the Bible to already confuse man, and that is why we have over 30,000 different churches.

strangertoo · #12 25th June 2012, 09:19 AM

The Word of God , as in the Truth of God , cannot be manifested in words, much is ineffable ... but the Spirit of Truth is seen by us in perfect Love which Jesus manifested for us to show us man need not sin [contrary to the teachings of many sinners in mass churches of sinners led by sinners in frocks like OT priests of the failed Levitical priesthood - because there is no uniform for those who actually follow Jesus , who are no longer sinners]

the authority of God is thus the Holy spirit which comes to any man who ceases to sin, turns to Love [because sin is any unlovingness against God and men , one cannot know God if one still sins]

1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil

so saints must be perfected in Love before Jesus returns, it is called baptism of fire and one cannot be saved without all three baptisms as John the baptist pointed out...

but most fail water baptism, fail to 'die' to their sin, continue as sinners and hope grace covers continual sin, but it does not , only PAST sin , thus when one stops sinning ... sin is abuse against God and men, sin is not Loving and God and Jesus command Love, no more sin :-

Matthew 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Romans 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

thus we find the Word of God only in saints perfected in Love, those still sinners do not even break the seal, cannot enter the kingdom of God because they cannot receive spirit baptism until they stop sinning...

2 Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

Phantasman · #13 25th June 2012, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by IOWLBNIF

NO.....

First off, Gnostics using their "own scripture" just shows how false they are....

Second, There is only 1 Word of God.......and that is Christ.....

The bible could be called the "words of God".....or the "testimonies about God"......but not the Word of God...........

I always ask people "What does it say in John 1, surely according to you, since you believe the bible is the Word of God, then it should read"

In the beginning was the Bible, and the Bible was with God, and the Bible was God....

^is that what John 1 says?

I rest my case.

One big difference you and I have..............I do not judge people like you do, and then hide behind the Bible as your judgement tool. If you are a Christian, I do not want to be one. All you do is judge, complain, and follow people trying to make others see things your way. Your mind is locked one way and if someone disagrees or questions you, they are of Satan.

With this post I take my leave of this site. I have met some good people on here. Like the author of this thread, when I came here, I was looking for answers. What I got was a place full of arguments and people who and so dogmatic and rude, that I would rather take my chances on a site full of Autistic children than to continue listening to garbage here.

My wife has told me since I have joined this site, she has seen me more frustrated. Rightly so. I prayed and my journey here is done.

Thank you Strangertoo, Soulgazer and Brett for the spiritual and historical knowledge I received from you to help on my journey.

To the rest, I pray that God helps you all.

pheiaX

Soulgazer · #14 25th June 2012, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by Phantasman

One big difference you and I have..............I do not judge people like you do, and then hide behind the Bible as your judgement tool. If you are a Christian, I do not want to be one. All you do is judge, complain, and follow people trying to make others see things your way. Your mind is locked one way and if someone disagrees or questions you, they are of Satan.

With this post I take my leave of this site. I have met some good people on here. Like the author of this thread, when I came here, I was looking for answers. What I got was a place full of arguments and people who and so dogmatic and rude, that I would rather take my chances on a site full of Autistic children than to continue listening to garbage here.

My wife has told me since I have joined this site, she has seen me more frustrated. Rightly so. I prayed and my journey here is done.

Thank you Strangertoo, Soulgazer and Brett for the spiritual and historical knowledge I received from you to help on my journey.

To the rest, I pray that God helps you all.

pheiaX

I will miss you.

Canterbury Trail · #15 25th June 2012, 10:22 AM

Jesus is the Word of God whilst the Bible is the word of God

Martinius · #16 25th June 2012, 10:24 AM

Definitely need more choices. Whether the Word of God is Jesus alone, the Bible alone, or even both together, we are limiting that Word. We are in a sense saying that only a small minority of humanity has ever had the chance to know the Word of God. That makes no sense to me. But what if we say that the Word of God is within us, each and every one of us? Then we all have access to the Word of God, which will not be limited to a set of books or to one "person" who appeared to only a small group of people in a small corner of the world at one point in time. The listed possibilities would seem to limit Him to only being the Lord of some, not of all, and to confine His message and His meaning to a few chosen people, with the great majority of people having no chance of even knowing about it. But Jesus seems to say that He is within and amongst us all, is available and open to all, and certainly makes His presence known to us in more ways than just through the written word or the time He physically spent on earth.

So my conclusion and belief is that the "Word of God" must be much more than what is stated in the OP's choices. Of course it includes both the Bible and Jesus Christ, but cannot be limited to either one or both together. To believe that way implies that God is finite and limited. I am afraid that what we are doing is creating an image of God based on our own very human (i.e., imperfect and inadequate) way of understanding God.

Soulgazer · #17 25th June 2012, 10:37 AM

Love is the word of God.

strangertoo · #18 25th June 2012, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by Soulgazer

Love is the word of God.

I like that one

Hillsage · #19 25th June 2012, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by Phantasman

It has been proven to me that the author of confusion (Satan) has used the Bible to already confuse man, and that is why we have over 30,000 different churches.

I always thought it was 666 different denominations.

Phantasman
I do not judge people like you do, and then hide behind the Bible as your judgement tool.

The 'staff of life' was never meant to be a 'club of death' IMO. I like what you said in another thread. "The Bible serves it's purpose for those that use it wisely."

If you are a Christian, I do not want to be one. All you do is judge, complain, and follow people trying to make others see things your way. Your mind is locked one way and if someone disagrees or questions you, they are of Satan.

It is truly with great sadness that I agree with your observation. Jesus was a friend of publicans AND SINNERS, whereas many today are enemies of the very cross they claim to stand in the shadow of. I pray your continuing quest in God be blessed with an ever unfolding revelation that's greater than the one you walk in today.

I guess it is somewhat of 'a calling' for some of us to be here. Mental retardation is a physical fact in life, and spiritual retardation is also a spiritual fact in the family of God IMO. I can't imagine dealing with the those who are physically challenged, but those who are spiritually challenged still need ministering to in the hope that they can be healed.

Martinius
Definitely need more choices. Whether the Word of God is Jesus alone, the Bible alone, or even both together, we are limiting that Word.

I couldn't answer the poll either.

toLiJC · #20 25th June 2012, 11:41 AM

the testimony which comes from the mouth of Lord God, but only Those Ones Who really are the true God Father and true Lord Jesus Christ are (the) Lord God - there is no other God/Lord/Christ, but only They the Twain