One thousand two hundred and ninety days to the "Consummation"

precepts · #1 20th June 2012, 04:08 PM

The first interesting point is in defining the word consummation:

International Standard Bible Encyclopaedia quote:
Consummation:
kon-su-ma’-shun (killayon from kalah): The word, meaning destruction, completion, or failing (Isa 10:23; 28:22; Da 9:27) is translated interchangeably in the King James Version for another Hebrew word referring to a physical disease, and best translated "consumption"; compare Le 26:16; De 28:22. Not used in the Revised Version (British and American). The Hebrew variously but more accurately translated "full end"; compare Da 9:27; Isa 10:23; and "destruction"; compare Isa 10:22; 28:22. There seems therefore to be an inconsistency on the part of both the Authorized and Revised translations.
Written by Walter G. Clippinger

Webster Dictionary quote:
Consummation:
1. The completion of marriage by sexual intercourse.
2. The act of bringing to completion or fruition.
3. The act of consummating, or the state of being consummated; completed; completion; perfection; termination; end (as of the world or of life).

My home dictionary also defines consummation as completion, especially in the final act of marriage.

The proof:

Dan 12:5 Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river.
Dan 12:6 And [one] said to the man clothed in linen, which [was] upon the waters of the river, How long [shall it be to] the end of these wonders?
Dan 12:7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which [was] upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that [it shall be] for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these [things] shall be finished.

The timeline for the consummation, the entering in of the New Jerusalem, begins with the abomination of desolation.

Dan 12:8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what [shall be] the end of these [things]?
Dan 12:9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words [are] closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
Dan 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
Dan 12:11 And from the time [that] the daily [sacrifice] shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, [there shall be] a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
Dan 12:12 Blessed [is] he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
Dan 12:13 But go thou thy way till the end [be]: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.

The thousand three hundred and thirty fifth day is the specific day.

Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
Dan 9:25 Know therefore and understand, [that] from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince [shall be] seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
Dan 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof [shall be] with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Note the "pouring upon the desoloate's" parallel with Revelation's account of the vials, before the time of the New Jerusalem, as well as the parallel of the angel's swearing of "time being no longer in Revelation!"

Rev 10:1 And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow [was] upon his head, and his face [was] as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire:
Rev 10:2 And he had in his hand a little book open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and [his] left [foot] on the earth,
Rev 10:3 And cried with a loud voice, as [when] a lion roareth: and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices.
Rev 10:4 And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not.
Rev 10:5 And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven,
Rev 10:6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:
Rev 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

There's also another parallel in Dan 12's opening of the books, and Revelaton's "White Throne Judgement," which is pre New Yah-ru-shalem.

Dan 11's greek lil horn, the scatterer of the holy people:

Dan 11:21 And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.
Dan 11:22 And with the arms of a flood shall they be overflown from before him, and shall be broken; yea, also the prince of the covenant.

The prince of the 70 wks covenant, the Aaronic high priestly lineage, ended by Antiochus III in favor of a "hellenized" levite as a political favor. This is a historical fact!

Dan 11:29 At the time appointed he shall return, and come toward the south; but it shall not be as the former, or as the latter.
Dan 11:30 For the ships of Chittim shall come against him: therefore he shall be grieved, and return, and have indignation against the holy covenant: so shall he do; he shall even return, and have intelligence with them that forsake the holy covenant.
Dan 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily [sacrifice], and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
Dan 11:32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do [exploits].

The 70 wks covenant was confirmed for the 3 1/2 yrs, post Babylon, post the rebuilding of the 2nd temple!

Dan 11:36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.

Antiochus III the Great, reigned 223-187 bc. He is one of the four Euphrates angels, as was/is Revelation's false prophet.

Dan 7:9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment [was] white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne [was like] the fiery flame, [and] his wheels [as] burning fire.
Dan 7:10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.
Dan 7:11 b[I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake:[/b] I beheld [even] till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.
Dan 7:12 As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time.

This is Revelation's account of the Beast and the false prophet being thrown into the lake of fire.

Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become [the kingdoms] of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
Rev 11:16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,
Rev 11:17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
Rev 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

The 1st heavenly resurrection recorded in Revelation when God's throne is seen, not to be confused with the "White Throne Judgement" after the 1,000yrs reign, Dan 12's parallel.

This is the timeline for the New heavens and heaveanly earth, the 1,290 days to the New heavenly Yahrushalem!

vinsight4u · #2 20th June 2012, 11:55 PM

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Bible2 · #3 26th June 2012, 03:01 AM

precepts said in post 1:

Dan 12:7

Dan. 12:7b means Jesus will return to a church which has been completely defeated physically by the Antichrist (the AC). For during the AC's future, literal 3.5-yr. worldwide reign, he'll be allowed to make war against the church & overcome it physically in every nation (Rev. 13:5-10, 14:12-13, 20:4-6, Mt. 24:9-13). It's only when the AC's completely broken all the physical power of the church that the trib will end (Dan. 12:7b) & Jesus will immediately return from heaven to resurrect & rapture (gather together) the church (Mt. 24:29-31, 2 Thes. 2:1-8, Rev. 19:7-20:6). At his return, Jesus will tread the winepress of God's wrath alone (Isa. 63:3, Rev. 19:15-21), & so he/God will get all the glory for defeating the power of evil on the earth (Deut. 32:39-43), for he/God won't share this glory with the church (cf. Isa. 42:8-14, 26:18).

Dan 12:12

Dan. 12:11-12 (& Rev. 16:15) could mean exactly 1,335 literal days after the abomination of desolation (the AOD) (possibly a standing, android image of the AC) is set up in the holy place of a 3rd Jewish temple (Mt. 24:15, Dan. 11:31), Jesus will return, & blessed are those believers who wait & remain obedient until that day. If the literal 1,260 days of the AC's worldwide reign (Rev. 13:5-8, 12:6) will begin when the AOD's set up, and if the 7 vials of God's wrath will begin on the day after the 1,260 days of the AC's worldwide reign (Rev. 11:15,19, 15:5-16:1), & if the first 6 vials will be poured out over 30 days, then the 6th vial could be poured out on the 1,290th day after the AOD's set up (Dan. 12:11). It's on this 1,290th day that the blessing of Dan. 12:12/Rev. 16:15 could be given, after the 6th vial has been poured out (Rev. 16:12), encouraging those in the church still alive on the earth to keep holding on just 45 more days until Jesus returns on the 1,335th day. The 45 days could be taken up by the gathering together of the armies of the world to Armageddon (Rev. 16:14,16) (Har Megiddo: Mount Megiddo in northern Israel) & then their moving south to pillage Jerusalem, right before Jesus returns & defeats them (Zech. 14:2-21, Rev. 19:19-21).

Pilgrimer · #4 27th June 2012, 06:35 PM

Or 3 1/2 years from the time the sacrifice and oblation failed to be offered in the temple and the Roman armies surrounded the city to lay siege brought us to the end of the war with the fall of Masada and the death of the last of the Zealots

In Christ,
Pilgrimer

precepts · #5 27th June 2012, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by Pilgrimer

Or 3 1/2 years from the time the sacrifice and oblation failed to be offered in the temple and the Roman armies surrounded the city to lay siege brought us to the end of the war with the fall of Masada and the death of the last of the Zealots

In Christ,
Pilgrimer

There can only be one reason why anyone would post contrary to the facts. The fact is, the covenant spoken of in all these verses is the 70 wks prophecy covenant that's post Babylon captivity. That's a fact. The breaking of this 2nd temple covenant is the reason for the Pharisees and Sadducee's hypocricy as illegitimate rulers of the ewes. The 3 1/2 yrs is to the "consummation," the entering in of the new Yah ru Shalem!

Other verses that supports this fact:

Mic 5:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, [though] thou be little among the thousands of Judah, [yet] out of thee shall he come forth unto me [that is] to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth [have been] from of old, from everlasting.
Mic 5:3 Therefore will he give them up, until the time [that] she which travaileth hath brought forth: then the remnant of his brethren shall return unto the children of Israel.

This is the breaking of the 70wks covenant, his giving them up after confirming the covenant for 3 1/2 yrs. The "birth pains" is Christ's time.

Douggg · #6 27th June 2012, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by vinsight4u

The 1290 days is to the end of chapter 11.

This is when the beast is still alive and only flees Jerusalem.
Armageddon would still be yet to occur and take us to the 1335 days.

I am not certain where the AC beast will be when Jesus returns to the Mt of Olives, but the image of the beast, that will be in the temple, as the AOD, occupied by Satan will be on the temple mount - where imo the outer facade of the statue image will be vaporized by the brightness of Jesus's coming and Satan will be exposed for the whole world to see.

Doug

Pilgrimer · #7 27th June 2012, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by precepts

There can only be one reason why anyone would post contrary to the facts. The fact is, the covenant spoken of in all these verses is the 70 wks prophecy covenant that's post Babylon captivity. That's a fact.

If I'm not mistaken, 70 A.D. is post Babylonian captivity.

Originally Posted by precepts

The breaking of this 2nd temple covenant is the reason for the Pharisees and Sadducee's hypocricy as illegitimate rulers of the ewes. The 3 1/2 yrs is to the "consummation," the entering in of the new Yah ru Shalem!

Other verses that supports this fact:
This is the breaking of the 70wks covenant, his giving them up after confirming the covenant for 3 1/2 yrs. The "birth pains" is Christ's time.

Again, If I'm not mistaken, Jesus confirmed the New Covenant with the disciples for one week, which is 7 years, not 3 1/2 years. The New Covenant was confirmed by Jesus when the Old Covenant was brought to an end in the 7-year war which destroyed the Jewish state and brought the Mosaic economy to an end.

The birth pains was the tribulation that Israel underwent in bringing to pass God's plan of salvation, the birth of the church, the body of Christ.

Doesn't any of your doctrine include the Gospel?

In Christ,
Pilgrimer

precepts · #8 28th June 2012, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by Pilgrimer

If I'm not mistaken, 70 A.D. is post Babylonian captivity.

Again, If I'm not mistaken, Jesus confirmed the New Covenant with the disciples for one week, which is 7 years, not 3 1/2 years. The New Covenant was confirmed by Jesus when the Old Covenant was brought to an end in the 7-year war which destroyed the Jewish state and brought the Mosaic economy to an end.

The birth pains was the tribulation that Israel underwent in bringing to pass God's plan of salvation, the birth of the church, the body of Christ.

Doesn't any of your doctrine include the Gospel?

In Christ,
Pilgrimer

If I'm not mistaken, action speaks way louder than words, and what you're attempting to do is to tempt me, but the facts are the facts, and destiny is destiny! Have a nice day!

cybrlands · #9 28th June 2012, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by precepts

If I'm not mistaken, action speaks way louder than words, and what you're attempting to do is to tempt me, but the facts are the facts, and destiny is destiny! Have a nice day!

In the middle of The Week, He Will put an end to Sacrifice and Offerings...

This was fulfilled in The Redemption Overcoming through 1/2 x 7 = 3 1/2 years to the Cross.

Plus 3 1/2 days plus 40 days, plus X number of days until Pentecost.

1303.5 + X = 1335.

31.5 days = X.

If there is a 30 day period added for Adar I: 1260 + 30

If 1290 is the middle, as written: 1290 x 2 = +- 2580 days... was the final 7 year period.

1260 + 40 = 1300. - 10 days = 1290. These 10 times is written. 10/30 = 1/3 of a month~.

1260 + 75 { 30 Adar I + Adar II 29 + 16} = 1335 days/years.

For example : 16 Isaac + 8 Ishmael = 24.

30 - 16 = 14.

29 - 16 = 13 {months?}.

precepts · #10 28th June 2012, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by cybrlands

In the middle of The Week, He Will put an end to Sacrifice and Offerings...

This was fulfilled in The Redemption Overcoming through 1/2 x 7 = 3 1/2 years to the Cross.

Plus 3 1/2 days plus 40 days, plus X number of days until Pentecost.

1303.5 + X = 1335.

31.5 days = X.

If there is a 30 day period added for Adar I: 1260 + 30

If 1290 is the middle, as written: 1290 x 2 = +- 2580 days... was the final 7 year period.

1260 + 40 = 1300. - 10 days = 1290. These 10 times is written. 10/30 = 1/3 of a month~.

1260 + 75 { 30 Adar I + Adar II 29 + 16} = 1335 days/years.

For example : 16 Isaac + 8 Ishmael = 24.

30 - 16 = 14.

29 - 16 = 13 {months?}.

cyberlands 23:12-23