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Originally Posted by spiritualwarrior77
Scandinavia (like the rest of Europe) is a time-bomb waiting to go off. Any 'harmony' you now perceive will quickly disappear once the SHTF (and it will!)
Anders Breivik claimed to be acting in favour of cultural Christianity. He was a one-man band. There is no organisation behind him. He was a lone nutter.

So despite that Norway has been one of the best nations to live in in recent years. Explain this website.

A society that doesn't murder unborn children.
Because that's not biased analysis.

At any rate: Such an opinion can be come to without Christianity.

A society that abhors violence in the media.
I'd say this is broadly true in Western Europe.

A society that looks after it's poor.
Nations such as Norway, Sweden etc are derogatively referred to as welfare states. They do look after their poor.

A society that respects the life of every human being.
This is as true in Norway as anywhere else.

A society that doesn't drench it's citizens in porn and objectifies women.
Norway, Sweden, Finland etc are socially progressive and treat women probably the best on the planet.

A society that doesn't attack other countries.
I hardly think you can level charges at Norway, Sweden and Finland for aggression towards other nations.

A society that teaches values such as making peace with your enemies, being kind to others, loving your neighbour, helping the poor, sick, elderly etc.
All true in the nations I'm talking about.
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Originally Posted by spiritualwarrior77 View Post
Paul's advice to the Roman church on how to behave. I don't hear his knid of advice coming from atheist/humanists!

Romans 12:9-21
9 Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good. 10 Be devoted to one another in love. Honor one another above yourselves. 11 Never be lacking in zeal, but keep your spiritual fervor, serving the Lord. 12 Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer. 13 Share with the Lord’s people who are in need. Practice hospitality.

14 Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse. 15 Rejoice with those who rejoice; mourn with those who mourn. 16 Live in harmony with one another. Do not be proud, but be willing to associate with people of low position.[a] Do not be conceited.

17 Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everyone. 18 If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. 19 Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,”[b] says the Lord. 20 On the contrary:

“If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
if he is thirsty, give him something to drink.
In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.”[c]
21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.
So you think it impossible that no non-theist is capable of sincerely advising advising people to live in harmony with others? At any rate, such advice (ignoring the servile appeals to obeying God) is almost routine and loaded in generalities and so obviously pious that it bares not repeating. I've heard much better words of wisdom from other sources.
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Originally Posted by spiritualwarrior77 View Post
Remember this guy?
What about him? He is an extreme fringe individual.

Scandinavia (like the rest of Europe) is a time-bomb waiting to go off.
I don't believe this just because you say this. From what I can see from living in Sweden, Scandinavia is very stable socially and politically. More so than America.


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Originally Posted by Eudaimonist View Post
Given the 'heart of man', maybe. But not given the theories.

What you are doing is like suggesting that just because we correctly understand that our right arms can deliver lethal force, then we must blame that knowledge on the invention of clubs and swords. Knowledge of reality somehow becomes our enemy, even though we could choose to use it for good! You are taking a pro-ignorance stance. Mindlessness is your ideal.

It is absurd to blame Darwinism on the ethical misuses people may give to that information.


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What makes Darwinism so dangerous is that it is a theory which is incorrect and which has no evidence to support it. It is not 'knowledge of reality' as you say. May I highly recommend this book written by a Richard Milton. A member of Mensa and of the Geologists Association for over twenty years, he is brave enough to point out that Darwinism is a big fat lie! It is an ideology that is promoted and promulgated to justify all sorts of dominating behaviour. (He's not a Christian BTW)

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Originally Posted by spiritualwarrior77 View Post
What makes Darwinism so dangerous is that it is a theory which is incorrect and which has no evidence to support it.
That is simply not true.


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Originally Posted by Eudaimonist View Post
What about him? He is an extreme fringe individual.



I don't believe this just because you say this. From what I can see from living in Sweden, Scandinavia is very stable socially and politically. More so than America.


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I don't expect you to believe me just because I say this. But that statement comes from an understanding of the intentions of the 'elites'. A large financial crisis, civil unrest, racial (and religious) tensions exploding, food crises and other engineered disasters will be what is needed to unroll the next step in the plans of the Rothschild's and Rockefellers of this world. A global coup is underway while the world is asleep. By the time most work out what has happened, it'll be too late!
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Originally Posted by spiritualwarrior77 View Post
I don't expect you to believe me just because I say this. But that statement comes from an understanding of the intentions of the 'elites'. A large financial crisis, civil unrest, racial (and religious) tensions exploding, food crises and other engineered disasters will be what is needed to unroll the next step in the plans of the Rothschild's and Rockefellers of this world. A global coup is underway while the world is asleep. By the time most work out what has happened, it'll be too late!
I see that you are into conspiracy theories. Nevermind. I don't argue with paranoid personalities.


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I've heard much better words of wisdom from other sources.
Love to hear them.
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Originally Posted by spiritualwarrior77 View Post
Love to hear them.
Here:
Originally Posted by Hitchens
Beware the irrational, however seductive. Shun the ‘transcendent’ and all who invite you to subordinate or annihilate yourself. Distrust compassion; prefer dignity for yourself and others. Don’t be afraid to be thought arrogant or selfish. Picture all experts as if they were mammals. Never be a spectator of unfairness or stupidity. Seek out argument and disputation for their own sake; the grave will supply plenty of time for silence. Suspect your own motives, and all excuses. Do not live for others any more than you would expect others to live for you.
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Originally Posted by Skavau View Post
Anders Breivik claimed to be acting in favour of cultural Christianity. He was a one-man band. There is no organisation behind him. He was a lone nutter.

So despite that Norway has been one of the best nations to live in in recent years. Explain this website.


Because that's not biased analysis.

At any rate: Such an opinion can be come to without Christianity.


I'd say this is broadly true in Western Europe.


Nations such as Norway, Sweden etc are derogatively referred to as welfare states. They do look after their poor.


This is as true in Norway as anywhere else.


Norway, Sweden, Finland etc are socially progressive and treat women probably the best on the planet.


I hardly think you can level charges at Norway, Sweden and Finland for aggression towards other nations.


All true in the nations I'm talking about.
The Scandinavian countries are amongst the most mind-controlled on earth. They are programmed to BEHAVE!
They also have huge problems with depression and alcoholism. Any harmony in those countries is all just a manufactured media presentation.
Islam will shatter the stability of these countries quite nicely at some stage in the near future!
Scandinavia is drowning in porn. No way to treat women IMO.
Breviek was not acting alone IMO. Two gunmen were heard at the sight by many of the children. Most of these so-called lone gunmen have been under some kind of mind control and working on behalf of someone else.

(Hope I have not offended! Just wanted to give another point of view)
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