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I have a question...as a group do Baptists define their relatinoship with Jesus as being "Saved by Grace through Faith." How do they feel about Grace and its part in being saved? I am just curious since I started recently going to a Baptist church, I was asked to describe my faith and that is how I described in. I saw a blank look on the pastors face, and he suggested learning more about the church before I make a choice in attending their indefinetly (just moved to new area, so church shopping). What are your thoughts?
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I have a question...as a group do Baptists define their relatinoship with Jesus as being "Saved by Grace through Faith." How do they feel about Grace and its part in being saved? I am just curious since I started recently going to a Baptist church, I was asked to describe my faith and that is how I described in. I saw a blank look on the pastors face, and he suggested learning more about the church before I make a choice in attending their indefinetly (just moved to new area, so church shopping). What are your thoughts?
God's grace gives the believer faith. Grace is a free gift from God.
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I can say this much: The truth of salvation by grace alone is what inspired John Newton to write the wonderful song “Amazing Grace.” It is a grace so amazing that it can save a wretch like me. It truly is an amazing grace.
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8 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

This doctrine is important because it correctly communicates the fact that God saves us because of His mercy and goodness and not because of anything that makes us desirable to God or worthy to be saved. We cannot grasp how amazing God’s grace in salvation is until we first grasp how sinful we truly are, and even then to truly understand the love and desire God feels toward having a relationship with us is beyond us. We can only rejoice in it.
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Originally Posted by jess91877 View Post
I have a question...as a group do Baptists define their relatinoship with Jesus as being "Saved by Grace through Faith." How do they feel about Grace and its part in being saved? I am just curious since I started recently going to a Baptist church, I was asked to describe my faith and that is how I described in. I saw a blank look on the pastors face, and he suggested learning more about the church before I make a choice in attending their indefinetly (just moved to new area, so church shopping). What are your thoughts?
We are indeed saved by God's grace through faith in the Son. If that is what you told the pastor and it yielded a blank face and an admonition to learn more about the church then I would question what that particular baptist church believes. Baptist churches do not all agree on the same teachings which has yielded several conventions. The individual conventions have statements of faith defining beliefs. For example, beliefs of the Southern Baptist convention can be found here. In general you will find that individual Baptist churches either belong to a convention or are independent. Just ask the pastor if their have a statement of faith and what convention they belong to. If the church is independent then just ask him for their statement of faith.
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Originally Posted by jess91877
I have a question...as a group do Baptists define their relatinoship with Jesus as being "Saved by Grace through Faith." How do they feel about Grace and its part in being saved? I am just curious since I started recently going to a Baptist church, I was asked to describe my faith and that is how I described in. I saw a blank look on the pastors face, and he suggested learning more about the church before I make a choice in attending their indefinetly (just moved to new area, so church shopping). What are your thoughts?
Faith is a gracious gift from God given to those he loves and sacrificed Christ for.
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What was this pastors' issue with "grace?"

Oh, and all Baptist Churches are "independent," even those aligned with the Southern Baptist Convention do not all agree in everything. Just because you are in agreement with the convention does not mean it owns you.
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Originally Posted by jess91877 View Post
I have a question...as a group do Baptists define their relatinoship with Jesus as being "Saved by Grace through Faith." How do they feel about Grace and its part in being saved? I am just curious since I started recently going to a Baptist church, I was asked to describe my faith and that is how I described in. I saw a blank look on the pastors face, and he suggested learning more about the church before I make a choice in attending their indefinetly (just moved to new area, so church shopping). What are your thoughts?
IMO your response is completely theologically sound (based on God's Word). i don not understand the pastor's response. Was this a free-will baptist congregation?
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Originally Posted by jess91877 View Post
I have a question...as a group do Baptists define their relatinoship with Jesus as being "Saved by Grace through Faith." How do they feel about Grace and its part in being saved? I am just curious since I started recently going to a Baptist church, I was asked to describe my faith and that is how I described in. I saw a blank look on the pastors face, and he suggested learning more about the church before I make a choice in attending their indefinetly (just moved to new area, so church shopping). What are your thoughts?
It is either faith or it is something else. It is not a mix. If you add anything to faith you destroy biblical faith. The problem is that many people do not understand what faith really is and they call their intellectual assent faith when it is not. That being said I agree that you might need to move on from that church. Not because of your lack of understanding but because that pastor has already proven he is not fit to lead a church by his reply to you. What he should have done is ask you to meet with him in private and explain what the bible teaches about this issue. He simply is not pastor material so I would move on if I were you.
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Christians are saved by faith alone. The Gospel is that Jesus, who is God, came in a form of a servant, lived a perfect and sinless life and died on a Cross so that all who believe would not perish but have eternal life in His Name. Gospel of Jesus Christ is the ground of all our acceptance with God and our sanctification. There is nothing apart from grace that is even possible for us. It's quite simple yet hard to believe sometimes. There is nothing we gotta do to be forgiven; that is, justified; before we actually get justified. We don't even have to keep ourselves justified by any form of merit. God accepted us, that's the starting point. From there we grow into Christ likeness daily, basing all of what we are on the grace of God.

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Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus, who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but made himself nothing, taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. And being found in human form, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross.
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