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11th June 2012, 03:42 AM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | | God keeps punishing me My mother is a christian.. I am not... seems like the christian god that she worships continues to punish me with bad luck. My mom and I argue constantly and her faith and christianity in general is what brings out the arguments we have most of the time. I have constant mirgraine headaches, recently got into a car accident in a parking lot, other Christians force their religion down my throat and tell me I am going to hell, my boss at my minimum wage job continues to yell at me daily, my family blames my grandparents getting sick on me - and that is just a miniscule amount of events that continue to happen to me. If god does exist I am fed up that he chooses to punish me everyday - I want him to back off me! | 
11th June 2012, 10:33 AM
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11th June 2012, 12:53 PM
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12th June 2012, 07:34 AM
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Reps: 991,847,741,051,487,232 (power: 991,847,741,051,504) | | Originally Posted by Anon1212 My mother is a christian.. I am not... seems like the christian god that she worships continues to punish me with bad luck. My mom and I argue constantly and her faith and christianity in general is what brings out the arguments we have most of the time. I have constant mirgraine headaches, recently got into a car accident in a parking lot, other Christians force their religion down my throat and tell me I am going to hell, my boss at my minimum wage job continues to yell at me daily, my family blames my grandparents getting sick on me - and that is just a miniscule amount of events that continue to happen to me. If god does exist I am fed up that he chooses to punish me everyday - I want him to back off me!
What in the world makes you think God is doing any of that to you? It sounds to me like you have similar experiences that everyone else has to one degree or another, and quite frankly, if that's all you got, you should be thanking Him for blessing you.
Jesus said, "Therefore do not be anxious about tomorrow, for tomorrow will be anxious for itself. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble." (Matt 6:34) He meant it too. You're gonna have problems. Welcome to Earth.
Your issue is not that God is beating you up, but rather you have your problems and no God to turn to when you need help. | 
13th June 2012, 07:24 AM
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The issue with life is if we choose to ignore God, and take our selves away from him, we reduce his protective capacities in our lives. This leaves us open to the attacks of Satan on our lives. It is wrong thinking to say you are the cause of your grandparents sickness. But in order to have your life protected you must return to Christ. If not things will eventually be a lot worse than they are now. Hell is a place of eternal torment reserved for those who reject God, and the suffering you are experiencing now is nothing compared to that. God is not against you, but you are if left to your self going to experience much worse. The only way out is repentance. | 
19th June 2012, 05:57 AM
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I think it's the people around you that are kind of intolerant.
Listen, if you are suffering from bad luck... Just go outside and do something good for someone else. Help/comfort someone. You will see that things will begin to get better.
It's what eastern religions call karma, though I prefer to call it Divine Providence 
It works for me at least.
Be patient and cheer up! Don't mind what other people tell you.
God made us all free; It's your life! It's your choice whether you believe or not. Hell is a place of eternal torment reserved for those who reject God
In my (Orthodox) theology, Paradise and Hell are the same thing; The reunion of the soul with God.
If you love Him, you will experience this reunion as Paradise and if you hate Him, you will suffer by his Presence.
However, people may love God, even if the don't believe in him. They may still be good and just.
And aren't these qualifications work of the Holy Spirit?
And didn't Jesus say that those who reject The Son will be forgiven, and only those that reject
the Spirit will be doomed?
I don't think that God will punish him just for not believing in Him.
Don't scare him off like that.
Peace.
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25th June 2012, 10:01 AM
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Reps: 271,573,656,411,620,480 (power: 271,573,656,411,636) | | Originally Posted by Anon1212 My mother is a christian.. I am not... seems like the christian god that she worships continues to punish me with bad luck. My mom and I argue constantly and her faith and christianity in general is what brings out the arguments we have most of the time. I have constant mirgraine headaches, recently got into a car accident in a parking lot, other Christians force their religion down my throat and tell me I am going to hell, my boss at my minimum wage job continues to yell at me daily, my family blames my grandparents getting sick on me - and that is just a miniscule amount of events that continue to happen to me. If god does exist I am fed up that he chooses to punish me everyday - I want him to back off me!
Oh my goodness - you sound just like me twenty-five years ago. When I didn't believe in ANYTHING anymore, I believed in my mom's prayers. I blamed every bit of crap in my life on those prayers. At one point I called her and told her to do me a favor and STOP praying for me. Of course she didn't stop, and now I am forever grateful.
Here's the anatomy of what happened in my life - I was a Christian from a very young age. I loved Jesus and prayed every day. As I grew older, I found that it was partially my faith that kept me out of the popular crowd. In college I noticed that other people were having fun, so I began to dabble in things that seemed fun. My face was turning slightly toward other things besides the Lord, and I slowly began walking away. As it happened, I was studying philosophy at the time, and since I was already wandering spiritually and not listening so much to God or my parents, I began to entertain thoughts and ideas contrary to the Truth. I began to believe that I was too educated and too intelligent to believe in God.
This was not a very happy state of affairs for me. I realized that I was happier before all the intellectualizing and all the wandering. At some point I remember having Very Little Faith left, and I prayed that God would return me to "simple belief" - I didn't even know if that was possible. But it was. I am not even sure how He did it, but nevertheless He did. I still had a long road to recovery. I am not sure I'm even there yet, after all these years. But I know one thing. Jesus is my redeemer.
I know that you still have a tiny amount of faith left. Whatever the cry of your heart is, cry it out, and He will answer you. Guaranteed. No matter how much we wander and think we're too smart for God, we do not stop belonging to Him.
blessings
tal
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25th June 2012, 11:43 PM
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Reps: 36,902,856,552,207,592 (power: 36,902,856,552,209) | | Originally Posted by Anon1212 My mother is a christian.. I am not... seems like the christian god that she worships continues to punish me with bad luck. My mom and I argue constantly and her faith and christianity in general is what brings out the arguments we have most of the time. I have constant mirgraine headaches, recently got into a car accident in a parking lot, other Christians force their religion down my throat and tell me I am going to hell, my boss at my minimum wage job continues to yell at me daily, my family blames my grandparents getting sick on me - and that is just a miniscule amount of events that continue to happen to me. If god does exist I am fed up that he chooses to punish me everyday - I want him to back off me!
God is involved. Will he back off? No! You are being tested. If you're capable of working through this you will be handsomely rewarded. You are not responsible for what is happening, but you are responsible for how you react Your job: If your boss is treating you poorly, you may need to pick up on your work performance. If you're a good worker and he's treating you unfairly, try speaking with someone higher up or go to human resources. Other people may feel the same way you do and if your boss is making your team feel uncomfortable a district manager will do something about it. You will also be respected for taking that initiative. Your mother/grandparents: You are old enough to understand your grandparents are sick because they are old. If your mother does not want to accept that, respect her decision and laugh it off (inwardly of course). Religion being shoved down your throat: No one has the right to decide you're going to Hell. You may yet be saved, and God does have a plan for you that no one else can speak for. We are here to help you, but ultimately it's up to you and God. | 
27th June 2012, 08:43 AM
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So if you reject God, you are open to the bad things that happen in life. Not sure if it's true, but you know, thought I'd throw it in there.
God bless. | 
4th July 2012, 04:57 PM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Anon1212 seems like the christian god that she worships continues to punish me with bad luck
You seem to be thinking really hard about what has a happened in your life, no doubtly because you are exploring alternate forms and systems of belief. I am presuming that you are fairly new to agnosticism? From what I have gathered from your post, I would say that you are still anxious/afraid to branch out. What you have said also fits the criteria for the False cause fallacy. Perhaps, because god has become a stressful topic, you are identifying negative events that happened to you as punishment?Don't be afraid, no matter what you end up believing in things will work out. |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | | | |