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BFine · #11 11th June 2012, 01:23 AM

@Sketcher...you can't fake real change...I know this from personal experience.

I know folks who have changed-- pimps, druggies and prostitutes. I also know folks who
try to get over but when you know the Word of God, they aren't going to fool you.

I learned a lot decades ago when I was silly and married a man who was a professional con artist. I learned a lot from that experience and I learned a lot more when I got real
with my own personal relationship with the Lord.

Forealzchola-- I'm not suggesting that you should be dating that guy but you should be actually watching/praying about him, you will know if the guy is real in his conversion in the time frame I suggested.
If he's not real, you can cross him off your list and keep searching!

parsley · #12 11th June 2012, 10:11 PM

I find it disgusting how many people here profess grace and forgiveness, but aren't ready to put it into practice in real life.

I don't think anyone here is talking about snubbing him, or not allowing him to turn over a new leaf.

In a situation like this, a believer might bring in others to spread friendships thinner, find a good male mentor for him at church, suggest he talk with the pastor... because human tendency is to lean on a love interest. Think about how many of your friends have done this when stressed or in transition.

A person who has been involved in crime can also run into situations where they are innocent, but others implicate them because of their past. Or old friends try to pull him back in. It can be a very complicated time.

Like BFine said, it is important that people earn their trust.

Pr 20:26 A wise king sifts out the wicked

Prov 29

A man who flatters his neighbor
Spreads a net for his feet.

By transgression an evil man is snared,
But the righteous sings and rejoices.

The righteous considers the cause of the poor,
But the wicked does not understand such knowledge.

Scoffers set a city aflame,
But wise men turn away wrath.

If a wise man contends with a foolish man,
Whether the fool rages or laughs, there is no peace.

The bloodthirsty hate the blameless,
But the upright seek his well-being.

A fool vents all his feelings,
But a wise man holds them back.

If a ruler pays attention to lies,
All his servants become wicked.

The poor man and the oppressor have this in common:
The LORD gives light to the eyes of both.

The king who judges the poor with truth,
His throne will be established forever.

gideon123 · #13 12th June 2012, 12:45 AM

you will know the tree by the fruit that it bears.

do his actions seem right to you?
there can be no inconsistency - if he truly gives his life to Christ.
I see no truth in what is going on ... if what you say is true.

gideon123

captaincarr · #14 12th June 2012, 10:30 AM

If you are asking, then I think you know in your heart that you should stay away from him for now.

Forealzchola · #15 14th June 2012, 01:51 AM

As of now he does not want to seek male christian mentors or fellowship.

parsley · #16 14th June 2012, 07:06 AM

As of now he does not want to seek male christian mentors or fellowship.

I would guess that some of that is just him being the one in charge for so long, and then being asked to yield to others' seniority while he is treated as a newbie. Very humbling.

But avoiding fellowship in general... it sounds like he will draw to you for safe support instead of taking the risks of experiencing prayer support and life in community (mbe they knew him when and will critique). These things take time. But if his evidence of Christianity is only lip service, then you'd have to wonder if he is just trying to get on your good side.