I attended a Charismatic bible college for a while. I went because it claimed to teach only scripture and not doctrines of man. What I later found out was it was WoF based while the founder claimed it was geared towards spiritual warfare.
Now my calling is as a prophet. Even at the very first service I attended, the guest speaker also had a prophetic ministry and taught on the role of a prophet. Half way through the sermon he stopped and pulled me out of the audience to proclaim my prophetic calling. I already knew that but it was a witness to those at the college.
My own personal background has been in direct conflict with paganism and witchcraft. At the age of 20 I dropped out of college and joined the Air Force. On my last Sunday before I left for Basic Training the pastor called me forward to have the elders pray over me. One of them prophecied I had a prophetic calling on my life under the 'spirit and power of Elijah'. I was like 'you got to be kidding'. 6 months later in military tech school a met two women that were fresh out of Basic training. One was a high priestess of Ashtoreth the goddess of Jezebel. We had a 3 year long battle that ended in a major scandal in the Air Force. Over 100 of her coven members and followers were prosecuted. About a dozen people dead because of that conflict.
When I got to the WoF bible college I was appauled at the level of witchcraft that was rooted in the WoF doctrines. I thought I was called there to learn more about spiritual warfare. What ended up happening was I was doing spiritual warfare against the influences within the college.
I wanted to start a discussion of WoF verses Non-WoF doctrine in the debate forum.
I see that there is already a 'Prosperity teaching is Baal worship' thread. I am more concerned with other aspects of WoF.
What supposed WoF Bible College are you referring to?
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When I got to the WoF bible college I was appauled at the level of witchcraft that was rooted in the WoF doctrines.
I thought I was called there to learn more about spiritual warfare.
What ended up happening was I was doing spiritual warfare against the influences within the college.
I just left the CF-wofer section, as they talk about God's love, but with the exception of one member there,
they demonstrate anything, but God's love.
'witchcraft'? - specifically what?
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I just left the CF-wofer section, as they talk about God's love, but with the exception of one member there, they demonstrate anything, but God's love.
'witchcraft'? - specifically what?
Well how about calling on the 'four winds' to bring them financial blessing? If they only understood the 'four winds/spirits' are the four main principalities of hell.
How about speaking curses from the pulpit on those that left the college without their blessing or didn't bow down to their total domination of their lives?
How about praying control over the student's lives?
How about operating in divination and trying to pass it off as prophecy?
I started breaking all the curses that were sent by the staff and they started falling ill. That is what happens when curses are broken. They rebound on the sender.
Well how ...
I started breaking all the curses that were sent by the staff and they started falling ill.
That is what happens when curses are broken. They rebound on the sender.
I will Check those out with my one good wofer-friend,
as I attended a wofer-church last year, & tho I also left that,
I have never! heard of:
1. "the 'four winds' to bring them financial blessing"
nor
2. "speaking curses"
nor
3. "bow down to their total domination": sounds like the NWO & the Antichrist
nor
4. "divination and trying to pass it off as prophecy"
nor
5. a Christian breaking a curse, by making the sender ill; oy vey!
The Old-T laws: (eye for an eye) etc., were Fulfilled
by Christ in the NEW-T. w/ specific teaching that
we're NOT to return evil, for evil. - So,
what exactly? did you do to "break a curse"?
God/Jesus taught that His Law is: LOVE God & as He loves you LOVE others
is it safe to assume you live this?
Well how about calling on the 'four winds' to bring them financial blessing? If they only understood the 'four winds/spirits' are the four main principalities of hell.
Wow, that's news to me. It sounds like those guys have lost the plot completely. How about they just seek the kingdom and His righteousness first, and let the good Lord supply them with what they need, instead of what they greed?
Originally Posted by Yahu
How about speaking curses from the pulpit on those that left the college without their blessing or didn't bow down to their total domination of their lives?
Another wow. That's such a major 1st and 2nd commandment fail. How about they try and stick to the basics and love their fellow man as they love themselves?
Originally Posted by Yahu
How about praying control over the student's lives?
Yup, that sounds like witchcraft. Perhaps they should pray for the Lord's will over their lives.
Originally Posted by Yahu
How about operating in divination and trying to pass it off as prophecy?
These guys sound like "WoF" as in "Whackos of Fail"
Originally Posted by Yahu
I started breaking all the curses that were sent by the staff and they started falling ill. That is what happens when curses are broken. They rebound on the sender.
Yup, as the old saying goes - "Play with fire and get burned. "
I fail to understand why these people refuse to practise simple, basic biblical principles.
I will Check those out with my one good wofer-friend,
as I attended a wofer-church last year, & tho I also left that,
I have never! heard of:
1. "the 'four winds' to bring them financial blessing"
nor
2. "speaking curses"
nor
3. "bow down to their total domination": sounds like the NWO & the Antichrist
nor
4. "divination and trying to pass it off as prophecy"
nor
5. a Christian breaking a curse, by making the sender ill; oy vey!
The Old-T laws: (eye for an eye) etc., were Fulfilled
by Christ in the NEW-T. w/ specific teaching that
we're NOT to return evil, for evil. - So,
what exactly? did you do to "break a curse"?
God/Jesus taught that His Law is: LOVE God & as He loves you LOVE others
is it safe to assume you live this?
Like my friend says - none of that sounds like biblical doctrine...
Well how about calling on the 'four winds' to bring them financial blessing? If they only understood the 'four winds/spirits' are the four main principalities of hell.
How about speaking curses from the pulpit on those that left the college without their blessing or didn't bow down to their total domination of their lives?
How about praying control over the student's lives?
How about operating in divination and trying to pass it off as prophecy?
I started breaking all the curses that were sent by the staff and they started falling ill. That is what happens when curses are broken. They rebound on the sender.
Holy crap! If what you say is even remotely true, that place has some serious issues.
But what you're posting is not at all indicative of WoF teaching, at least not that I've heard in the 30+ years I've attended my WoF church.
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I will Check those out with my one good wofer-friend,
as I attended a wofer-church last year, & tho I also left that,
I have never! heard of:
1. "the 'four winds' to bring them financial blessing"
nor
2. "speaking curses"
nor
3. "bow down to their total domination": sounds like the NWO & the Antichrist
nor
4. "divination and trying to pass it off as prophecy"
nor
5. a Christian breaking a curse, by making the sender ill; oy vey!
The Old-T laws: (eye for an eye) etc., were Fulfilled
by Christ in the NEW-T. w/ specific teaching that
we're NOT to return evil, for evil. - So,
what exactly? did you do to "break a curse"?
God/Jesus taught that His Law is: LOVE God & as He loves you LOVE others
is it safe to assume you live this?
Those are just examples of things that went on at that WoF college. I haven't started on how some of the WoF doctrines are rooted in witchcraft.
As far as what I did, well I break off any spirits sent against me by witchcraft often. I got an entire coven sent to prison and it is just a habit since then. They spent years in prison cursing my life, my family, my home church and anyone else that had helped convict them. As a result, when I feel spiritual attacks coming against me, I periodically rebuke any spirit sent into my life by witchcraft. I was surprised when staff that claimed they were praying over my life started getting sick right after. One women that was trying to meddle in my relationship with my fiance (she wanted to set up my fiance with her own son) was praying control over our situation and when I rebuked witchcraft sent against me she got migraines and accused me of witchcraft.
What I learned was prayers of control over another's life is witchcraft. Yah will not impose your will over another's life. He will only impose His will over their life and you must pray His will be done in their life. When you pray your own will be done, Yah refused that prayer but other spirits under our spiritual authority may attempt to answer that prayer and be 'god' in our lives. Yeshua granted us all authority over the forces of the enemy. Prayer outside of the will of Yah IS witchcraft and my attempts to break off witchcraft effected others praying their own will over my life.
When a curse was spoken at the college I would break it in the name of Yeshua. I broke all curses sent by the staff and the prayer warriors fell ill.
Here is an example. One of the things taught by the pastor was that evil would fall on anyone that left the congregation without her approval. One of the girls had issues and left the college. One of the other students declared that evil would fall on her for leaving. I rebuked him on the spot for cursing her life and broke it in the name of Yeshua. He repented of speaking a curse over her. Life and death is in the power of the tongue.
I learned when in conflict with a coven, when I broke off curses, they rebounded on the sender 3x by the laws of witchcraft. Witches that deal in curses are very good at protection spells. They need 3x greater protection spells then their greatest curse. The law of Yah is a 7x return of evil. Just by breaking a curse, the penalty for the one that sent it is 7x worse.
I don't send curses. I break curses and they reap what they sow.
WoF does understand spiritual authority but it is often misused. The misuse of that spiritual authority to send spirits against another persons life is witchcraft.