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Old 1st June 2012, 08:43 AM
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The best evidence against Evolution

'Evolution' refers to both the fact of evolution (a change in allele frequency over time) and the theory of evolution (the theory that all life is descended from a common ancestor, and variation is due to evolution by natural selection).

So, with that established, what's the best evidence or rationale against one or both?
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Originally Posted by Wiccan_Child View Post
'Evolution' refers to both the fact of evolution (a change in allele frequency over time) and the theory of evolution (the theory that all life is descended from a common ancestor, and variation is due to evolution by natural selection).

So, with that established, what's the best evidence or rationale against one or both?
Time.
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Originally Posted by Wiccan_Child View Post
'Evolution' refers to both the fact of evolution (a change in allele frequency over time) and the theory of evolution (the theory that all life is descended from a common ancestor, and variation is due to evolution by natural selection).

So, with that established, what's the best evidence or rationale against one or both?
I don't know that it counts as evidence against, and it's probably only a bit of nitpicking of your phrasing, but I thought this study on UCA was interesting ... or should I say the criticisms of this study, which came later around post #59.

Originally Posted by Naraoia View Post
There was also a recent attempt at an explicit test of universal common ancestry, and this sparked debate, not automatic acceptance.
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Originally Posted by Wiccan_Child View Post
'Evolution' refers to both the fact of evolution (a change in allele frequency over time) and the theory of evolution (the theory that all life is descended from a common ancestor, and variation is due to evolution by natural selection).

So, with that established, what's the best evidence or rationale against one or both?
1. My religious dogma demands I reject evolutionism.
2. Evolutionism makes me feel all "icky" inside. I prefer "warm and fuzzy."
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Originally Posted by Wiccan_Child View Post
'Evolution' refers to both the fact of evolution (a change in allele frequency over time) and the theory of evolution (the theory that all life is descended from a common ancestor, and variation is due to evolution by natural selection).

So, with that established, what's the best evidence or rationale against one or both?
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Originally Posted by Wiccan_Child View Post
'Evolution' refers to both the fact of evolution (a change in allele frequency over time) and the theory of evolution (the theory that all life is descended from a common ancestor, and variation is due to evolution by natural selection).

So, with that established, what's the best evidence or rationale against one or both?
You cannot use evolution to define evolution.
No "...and variation is due to evolution by natural selection" its not.
Can't you evolutionists do this correcting?
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You cannot use evolution to define evolution.
No "...and variation is due to evolution by natural selection" its not.
Can't you evolutionists do this correcting?
If you got stuck at the first hurdle, maybe this race isn't for you. Thanks for trying, though!
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Originally Posted by mzungu View Post
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Even if what you agreed to is incorrect?
Evolution does not cause variation.
Variation allows for changes to happen.
Evolution is the end result of the natural selection process.
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Do I stop when the logic is wrong. Yes....that's a wall. Logic is no hurdle to jump unless your a new student of natural sciences.
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Do I stop when the logic is wrong. Yes....that's a wall. Logic is no hurdle to jump unless your a new student of natural sciences.
You can't use a word to define itself. Don't bother trying.
Oooh, still struggling with that first hurdle. Keep at it, you'll get it eventually. Thanks for playing!
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