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Old 5th June 2012, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by gurneyhalleck1 View Post
Well, true. I'm just saying that man is essentially good, not the pile of dung in a wedding dress that Martin Luther portrayed. God made us good. And we have a desire to know and follow God, to be good. When we are at Church, in a way we are given an environement with like-minded people searching to know and love God more. I'm just offering, throwing out, the idea that maybe we're not as phoney and such a bunch of posers as some have proposed. Maybe we actually are more like what we wish to be and are deep down at church.

I know, too existential. Sorry.
The bolded: What an articulate description.

Yes, I see what you're saying.
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Originally Posted by Protoevangel View Post
Acting a certain way in Church can be normal, not necessarily 'fake". I act a different way when i am at work than when I am a social gathering. i act a different way when I'm at a hospital, and yet another way if I am shopping... Yet all this time I am me, .
That seems to me a good and balanced approach to take.
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Old 5th June 2012, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SeraphimSarov View Post
That seems to me a good and balanced approach to take.
Who am I at church? Only who I wish I could be the rest of the time. C.S. Lewis compares it to kids pretending to be cowboys and doctors... you know, practicing to be adults. We are who we think we should be when at church.

The place I feel the fakest and dirtiest is at work.

But the real reason I replied was to say that I do get your point. I am the one who is fake, not the people around me. Who is the chief of sinners? That would be me. So I apologize if I distracted from your point. It was a good one.
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Amen to that one. As a public education school teacher, trust me, I feel uber fake sometimes. I have to swallow my pride like you can't believe and compromise my ethics as well as fake enthusiasm or acceptance A LOT. Tough road to hoe.....

And listening to all the teachers who divorce over and over, shack up, have kids out of wedlock, reading "Da Vinci Code" novels, that "I'm not religious, I'm spiritual" nonsense....sigh

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what if the place where u feel fakest and dirtiest is at church? is that a good thing or bad?
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All this dirty, fake, vile talk is starting to make me feel like we've all converted to Calvinism!

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Originally Posted by gurneyhalleck1 View Post
Amen to that one. As a public education school teacher, trust me, I feel uber fake sometimes. I have to swallow my pride like you can't believe and compromise my ethics as well as fake enthusiasm or acceptance A LOT. Tough road to hoe.....

And listening to all the teachers who divorce over and over, shack up, have kids out of wedlock, reading "Da Vinci Code" novels, that "I'm not religious, I'm spiritual" nonsense....sigh
I'm glad I'm not the only one who hates the phrase "I'm spiritual and not religious."
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Originally Posted by Ortho_Cat View Post
what if the place where u feel fakest and dirtiest is at church? is that a good thing or bad?
Sometimes, it's in His House where He reveals our sins to us.
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Originally Posted by Dorothea View Post
Sometimes, it's in His House where He reveals our sins to us.
Yes, I agree. I find communion a very effective means of revelation.
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Yes, I agree. I find communion a very effective means of revelation.
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