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24th July 2012, 06:57 AM
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Satan’s ministers of “righteousness” will no longer have their power over their ears.
The prince of the “power of the air” speaks words that lead many people astray. When we will hear the Truth and no longer walk with them, then that “prince of the power of the air” falls from “heaven”. We will no longer hear their words as truth but will recognize their teachings as falsehoods. We will see that they are really just false prophets who speak words motivated by their own bellies. Ephesians 2:1-7 KJV (1) And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; (2) Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: (3) Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. (4) But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, (5) Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;) (6) And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: (7) That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
The error of religious man’s teachings will not prevail over the Word of Truth. Satan and his ministers will no longer have the power to deceive those who will receive the love of the Truth. Their power to deceive will be cast down. They shall fall out of favor in the ears of the hearing believers very quickly. Revelation 12:7-12 KJV (7) And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, (8) And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. (9) And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. (10) And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. (11) And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
Those who will dwell in the “heavens” are those who will receive what they will hear with joy. The “heaven” is the medium ….the air….in which words travel to our ears. They will dwell in what they will hear.
But woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea. (12) Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
The “earth” is the heart where envy, strife, covetousness, ect exists. Those who will “dwell” on the earth are those who will not let go of the evil that inhabits their hearts. The “sea” is the thoughts of the heart…..the evil thoughts of the heart. Acts 4:24-31 KJV (24) And when they heard that, they lifted up their voice to God with one accord, and said, Lord, thou art God, which hast made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all that in them is:
The “sea” rages. The thoughts of men will rage against the Truth…..the “holy child Jesus”. The “sea” will imagine vain things. (25) Who by the mouth of thy servant David hast said, Why did the heathen rage, and the people imagine vain things?
The” kings of the earth” will seek to keep rule over their own hearts rather than letting God sit on His throne….the heart. They will stand up and gather against the Lord and against His Christ. They will stand up against the Word that they will hear. The “man of sin” will be gathered together against what their ears will hear and will berate it. (26) The kings of the earth stood up, and the rulers were gathered together against the Lord,and against his Christ. (27) For of a truth against thy holy child Jesus, whom thou hast anointed, both Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together, (28) For to do whatsoever thy hand and thy counsel determined before to be done. (29) And now, Lord, behold their threatenings: and grant unto thy servants, that with all boldness they may speak thy word, (30) By stretching forth thine hand to heal; and that signs and wonders may be done by the name of thy holy child Jesus. (31) And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness.
Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath. They will have great wrath against the Truth and will speak out evil….sin. They will not be able to gainsay nor resist the Word but will instead resort to name-calling and false accusations.
But those who will dwell in “heaven” are those who will hear and will deaden their “members”…that is, their tongues….which are upon the “earth”….that is, the heart. The tongue speaks what is in the heart. Out of the heart (the earth) proceeds fornication, uncleanness, covetousness, etc. They will not let evil in the heart rule over them but will deaden these things at the revelation of Jesus Christ….the revealed Word. Colossians 3:5-11 KJV (5) Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:
Woe to those who inhabit the “earth” and of the “sea”…..the children of disobedience… (6) For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience: (7) In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them. (8) But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth. (9) Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds; (10) And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him: (11) Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all. To be continued… | 
27th July 2012, 07:02 AM
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Reps: 40,068,580,021,018,392 (power: 40,068,580,021,026) | | | The seed is the Word of God that will be spoken into the ears of many in this coming time. The Son of God comes to give us an understanding so that we know Him who is true. But some professors of religion will hear but not believe. They will instead trodden down the Son of God under their feet. Luke 8:11-12 KJV (11) Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God. (12) Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved.
The Son of God…the Word of God…will get trodden down under foot by the unbelievers in the churches as the “fowls of the air” will devour it. The “fowls of the air” are the evil words that they will speak in opposition to what they will hear. Words = birds that fly. Luke 8:5 KJV (5) A sower went out to sow his seed: and as he sowed, some fell by the way side; and it was trodden down, and the fowls of the air devoured it.
They will trodden the Son of God …the Seed….under foot and count the blood of the covenant as an “unholy”…that is, COMMON…thing and will have done despite unto the Spirit…that is, the breath…of grace.
They will bad mouth those who will speak the Truth with the breath of grace.
The “blood of the covenant” is to have love for one another as Jesus loved us and gave his life for us. The Lord’s supper is to have love for one another. Their lack of love that will be shown to others will make them “covenant breakers” as they will consider bashing others as if it will not be a big deal. They will think it a “common” thing that is not important to keep. Hebrews 10:29-30 KJV (29) Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? (30) For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
How is it that they will not understand the Seed? Because they will not be of God…for God is LOVE. Instead of loving their brother who will tell them the Truth, they will do what their father does. They will not abide in the Truth that they will hear but will “murder” another with their evil words as the Pharisees did with Jesus. John 8:42-47 KJV (42) Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. (43) Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. (44) Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. (45) And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. (46) Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me? (47) He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
Their wrath will be revealed by their words and evil speeches against what they will hear. Revelation 12:12 KJV (12) Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
They will trodden down what they will hear in their unbelief as the “fowls of the air” will come to devour what was sown in their hearts. Evil shall proceed out of their mouths as the “fowls of the air”….as they will be false accusers, haters of those that are good, COVENANT BREAKERS, etc. …. 2 Timothy 3:1-9 KJV (1) This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. (2) For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, (3) Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, (4) Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; (5) Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. (6) For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, (7) Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. (8) Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith. (9) But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.
They will make war with those who will keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. They will make war with those who will hear and receive the Word with joy…and keep it. Revelation 12:17 KJV (17) And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. To be continued….. | 
27th July 2012, 10:15 PM
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I am florred
great points of Light and truth in them
I am amazed by this whole thread !!
many things you brought forth , I always wonder about
the Holy Ghost and fire baptism
God being a consuming fire
and the lake of fire
If all our flesh is as grass and the field the world , the Lord clothes us and we are cast into the oven
so many things come to mind
I so appreciate your pressing into Gods Word and an blessed to read those whom speak revelation , the revealing Word
Many blessings in Jesus 1Pe 1:24
For all flesh [is] as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away: Mat 6:30Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, [shall he] not much more [clothe] you, O ye of little faith? | 
28th July 2012, 08:33 AM
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Glad to see you in here again….especially here in the depths of “unorthodox theology”! lol
I know how one must take a break every now and then.
You know how I just keep going on and on in here….so glad that you have taken the time to read. You know I have many misses…missing the mark of many topics. Yet, I take to heart what Paul wrote Timothy to devote oneself to public reading….and expounding.... 1 Timothy 4:13 KJV (13) Till I come, give attendance to reading, to exhortation, to doctrine.
....and hope to be “profiting” ….going forward…refining past thoughts and correcting past mistakes. 1 Timothy 4:15-16 KJV (15) Meditate upon these things; give thyself wholly to them; that thy profiting may appear to all. (16) Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.
You have always been an example to me as you have consistently been patient and kind…no matter how crazy things may sound. As always, thanks for reading and considering….you are truly a friend. | 
28th July 2012, 01:39 PM
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and love your constant praise of God though His Holy Word .
I enjoy reading them and learning of the Lord though the sharing in TRUTH
many times over we are blessed by the same scriptures only to show us a clearer light in the knowledge of God through Jesus Christ ! 2Cr 4:6For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to [give] the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.
all glory is Gods and those in Christ are under no condemnation , you have to love the way He teaches His children who are born again of His Holy Spirit !! awesome is our God !! Rom 8:1[There is] therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. much blessings as always , and thankful for His mercy and gifts of understanding the Lord gives us all from His children that share in His Light | 
1st August 2012, 07:01 AM
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Our God is awesome!
He loves us so much that He sends His Son to give us an understanding….the mind of Christ…so that we may know Him that is true. He sends the Light into the darkness of our hearts. 1 John 5:20 KJV (20) And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
He writes His laws into our minds as well as hearts. Hebrews 10:16-18 KJV (16) This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; (17) And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. (18) Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
His servants do not preach themselves….that is, for their own vain glory…but preach only for the glory of God. They preach Christ Jesus the Lord (who is Lord over their hearts’ ways and thoughts).
God commanded the Light to shine in our hearts (which have become darkened) to give the Light of the KNOWLEDGE of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. 2 Corinthians 4:5-6 KJV (5) For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake. (6) For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.
God did not create our hearts darkened…..they become that way because of the ignorance of religious men in high places…because of a lack of knowledge. Many follow the “blind” who cannot see. The “earth”…the hearts of religious men….BECAME vain….without form and void. Romans 1:21-22 KJV (21) Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. (22) Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
The “earth” BECAME (Hebrew: hayah) without form and void….vain and empty. The hearts of men have become that way because of a lack of knowledge of Him who is true. The Spirit of God “moved”…that is, fluttered like a bird….(Spirit = like a dove).....upon the face of the “waters”…..men. Genesis 1:1-3 KJV (1) In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. (2) And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. (3) And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
God looked down from heaven upon the children of men to see if any did UNDERSTAND and that seek Him. Psalms 53:2-4 KJV (2) God looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, that did seek God.
But none was found for every one of us have gone back. Not one does good….no, not one. (3) Every one of them is gone back: they are altogether become filthy; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
Again, it is because of a lack of knowledge that religious men take advantage of others and do not really call upon God in the Truth and Spirit. They preach only themselves as they serve their own bellies and not Jesus Christ. (4) Have the workers of iniquity no knowledge? who eat up my people as they eat bread: they have not called upon God.
The “earth”…the hearts of men…have BECOME without form and void…and there is no Light…no knowledge of God being spoken. Jeremiah 4:21-23 KJV (21) How long shall I see the standard, and hear the sound of the trumpet? (22) For my people is foolish, they have not known me; they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowledge. (23) I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.
God did not create the heart of man in vain. He formed it to be inhabited….by His Spirit. But men have strayed away from His righteousness by doing their own works of so-called righteousness. The hearts of religious men have become darkened by the lack of knowledge. Isaiah 45:18-20 KJV (18) For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else. (19) I have not spoken in secret, in a dark place of the earth: I said not unto the seed of Jacob, Seek ye me in vain: I the LORD speak righteousness, I declare things that are right.
But with His grace, our God sends the Light….Christ Jesus the Lord…into our hearts so that we may escape from those who are living and speaking in error. We are to escape from the congregations of darkness…who know not whom they worship. (20) Assemble yourselves and come; draw near together, ye that are escaped of the nations: they have no knowledge that set up the wood of their graven image, and pray unto a god that cannot save.
His Spirit “moves”…flutters like a bird….upon the “waters” looking for a heart to rest in. That Spirit found a place to rest in Jesus Christ who we are to put on. The same Jesus Christ baptizes us with the Holy Spirit. We are immersed with the knowledge of God being spoken by Jesus…the Word of God. John 1:32-34 KJV (32) And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him. (33) And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. (34) And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.
The Son of man looks for a place to lay his head….the mind of Christ.
Many preach themselves today….the foxes have holes and birds of the air have nests. Their words of deceit have a place in their mouths…but their words lack knowledge and only serve themselves. The Son of man looks for those who will leave those things behind and follow Him. The Son of man comes to save men. Luke 9:56-62 KJV (56) For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village. (57) And it came to pass, that, as they went in the way, a certain man said unto him, Lord, I will follow thee whithersoever thou goest. (58) And Jesus said unto him, Foxes have holes, and birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head. (59) And he said unto another, Follow me. But he said, Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father.
We are to preach the kingdom of God and not look back to our former religious ways and thoughts. We are to leave all behind. (60) Jesus said unto him, Let the dead bury their dead: but go thou and preach the kingdom of God. (61) And another also said, Lord, I will follow thee; but let me first go bid them farewell, which are at home at my house. (62) And Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.
Paul did just that…he left all of his religion behind to follow Christ. The religious things he counted as gain previously now were considered a loss. He lost all to gain Christ. Philippians 3:4-9 KJV (4) Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more: (5) Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee; (6) Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless. (7) But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ.
He counted ALL THINGS a loss for the excellency of the KNOWLEDGE of Christ Jesus our Lord. He gained so much more than what his fathers’ religion offered. Whoever shall lose his religious “life” shall save it. (8) Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ, (9) And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:
Our God saves us by His grace. He has mercy upon our darkened hearts and sends the Light of the knowledge of Him in the face of Jesus Christ. Genesis 1:3 KJV (3) And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
We ourselves were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived……living in malice and envy….living to the lusts of religious men in high places…living in the darkness of ignorance. Titus 3:1-8 KJV (1) Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work, (2) To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men. (3) For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another.
But the kindness and love of God our Savior appears toward man…..let there be Light….. (4) But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,
It is not our works of righteousness which we have done…for no one does what is right. But it is according to His mercy we are saved. He recreates us…the washing of “regeneration” and the renewing of the Holy Spirit. (5) Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Let there be Light…. (6) Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour; (7) That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life. (8) This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men. to be continued... | 
1st August 2012, 08:08 PM
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you are so in depth ! I am left with not much to say ! execpt AMEN again !
the Light of knowledge and the mind of Christ , Our head and authority we are the Body and hid in Christ by faith in HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS
no good thing in our flesh we cannot glory nor perfect the flesh . no flesh pleases God
but without faith its impossble to please God
our faith is more percious than gold
truly its the HOLY SPIRIT that we glory in
not the spirit of pride
convinced of that
seems the religious spirit is of the self rightous Spiritual pride , which is blind in darkness still to their own ways
Leviatahan the sea monster is that beast of the sea in Rev ? the Lord keeps us humble and hid in Him who is meek and lowly , we must remain hid in Jesus till all the scourge is over Mat 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. Job 41:15[His] scales [are his] pride, shut up together [as with] a close seal. Job 41:34He beholdeth all high [things]: he [is] a king over all the children of pride.Pro 16:18Pride [goeth] before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.1Jo 2:16For all that [is] in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. Isa 28:18And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it. the prideful in spirit shall be brought low as they have percuted the innocent , Jesus warns here Mat 10:17But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues Vengance is the Lords and he will repay , we wait on the Lord for His mercy and pray for our enemies , the enemies of the cross of Christ Phl 3:18(For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, [that they are] the enemies of the cross of Christ: Jesus was sent and made an open show of triumphing over death ,even to death of the Cross that the new and living way would be established ..
I thank Jesus for His mercy and love towards us whom have faith in what He has done for us
with love and prayers to you and yours always , C | 
2nd August 2012, 06:59 AM
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I concur with everything you have said!
The pride of religious men will prevent them from receiving the Word of Truth in this coming time….just like the Pharisees, Sadducees, scribes ….the religious leaders and their followers…. of yesterday resisted the Spirit….the Breath that spoke the Truth. Their hearts were still covered with the “waters” of strife….contradiction…debate….pride…unbelief. It will be just a repeat.
We must have faith in what we will hear with our ears….to be “born” from above. The Word that comes to our ears is higher than our own earthly thoughts and ways. Our hearts are the “earth”….and the seed is the Word of God. “good ground” = a honest and good heart. Luke 8:15 KJV (15) But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart, having heard the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience.
An honest and good heart will hear with ears and receive that Word …. KEEPING it. A honest and good heart will BELIEVE in what the ears have received. An honest and good heart will bring forth fruit in what is heard and kept with patience….a harvest of righteousness from the “earth” ….the heart.
It takes a “dry land” to bring forth “grass”, the herb yielding seed and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind…..a harvest of righteousness… Genesis 1:10-12 KJV (10) And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good. (11) And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so. (12) And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
It takes a humble and contrite heart…a dry land … to receive the Word in peace. The dove that Noah (meaning “rest”) could not find a place to rest because the waters were still on the face of the whole earth. The Spirit can not find a place to rest in the heart who is still full of the “waters” of strife, complaining, murmuring, debate……resisting the Spirit of Truth. Genesis 8:8-11 KJV (8) Also he sent forth a dove from him, to see if the waters were abated from off the face of the ground; (9) But the dove found no rest for the sole of her foot, and she returned unto him into the ark, for the waters were on the face of the whole earth: then he put forth his hand, and took her, and pulled her in unto him into the ark. (10) And he stayed yet other seven days; and again he sent forth the dove out of the ark;
Those who will receive the Spirit of grace will respond with peace toward the speaker. (11) And the dove came in to him in the evening; and, lo, in her mouth was an olive leaf pluckt off: so Noah knew that the waters were abated from off the earth.
If the son of peace will be there in the hearer of the Spirit of Truth, then our peace shall rest upon that person. They will receive what is said. But if not, the “dove” will return to you again for the "waters" have not abated from off that heart. Luke 10:5-6 KJV (5) And into whatsoever house ye enter, first say, Peace be to this house. (6) And if the son of peace be there, your peace shall rest upon it: if not, it shall turn to you again.
By “baptizing” people in the “water” of the Word….preaching the kingdom of God to others, the children of God will be manifested. John 1:31-34 KJV (31) And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water. (32) And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him. (33) And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. (34) And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.
For those who are of God shall hear the Word of Truth and keep it….not resisting the Spirit. 1 John 4:6 KJV (6) We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
He gives us power to become the sons of God….so that we also can preach to others… “baptizing” them with the Holy Spirit…the Breath of Truth. Christ sanctifies and cleanses His church with the washing of “water” by the WORD. We speak His words of Life and Spirit which brings cleansing to those who hear, believe and DO it. There is power in the Word. Ephesians 5:25-27 KJV (25) Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; (26) That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, (27) That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
A good and honest heart will keep what is said.
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2nd August 2012, 04:05 PM
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Needing prayers my niece who has been though so much loss is going to visit me today , May Gods wisdom and Holy Spirit guide us , all of us as we press on into it
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I will keep her in my prayers. Sorry to hear about your loss. May God give you and your niece and family strength through this.
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