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2nd June 2012, 06:00 PM
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Reps: 64,075,032,547,048,952 (power: 64,075,032,547,067) | | Originally Posted by Smidlee  Someone else quoted from this article:
"We did not create life from scratch : we transformed existing life into new life.Nor did we design and build a new chromosome from scratch."
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"However, despite more than a hundred years of experimentation with self-assembly, no one has successfully demonstrated the
synthesis of life in the laboratory according to this principle."
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9th June 2012, 11:32 PM
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Actually the irony here is, science can't explain the origin of anything. It can't deal with ontological questions. All it can do is observe patterns and make uniformitarian predictions based on those patterns. It's can't explain the origin of natural repeating patterns. It can infer natural law through observation, but can't possible explain the origin of the laws.
Yet, like fools, our culture looks to science for answers about everything. Go figure.
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10th June 2012, 07:18 AM
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Reps: 64,075,032,547,048,952 (power: 64,075,032,547,067) | | Originally Posted by Smidlee Someone else quoted from this article:
"We did not create life from scratch : we transformed existing life into new life.Nor did we design and build a new chromosome from scratch."
also from this :
"However, despite more than a hundred years of experimentation with self-assembly, no one has successfully demonstrated the
synthesis of life in the laboratory according to this principle."
We can make proteins from scratch. Right?
And gene is made of proteins (right?). So can we make some genes yet? |
10th June 2012, 10:59 AM
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11th June 2012, 07:24 AM
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Reps: 64,075,032,547,048,952 (power: 64,075,032,547,067) | | Originally Posted by Assyrian Genes, chromosomes, if you know the sequence you want, they can build it for you. Scary isn't it?
Really? Do they build it from scratch?
If you could, please show me a source of it.
If so, what stopped them from building a cell? I like to see a cell of a monster? |
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11th June 2012, 03:50 PM
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Reps: 64,075,032,547,048,952 (power: 64,075,032,547,067) | | Originally Posted by Assyrian You are looking for a synthetic monster cell and expect me to provide you with the links?
Well, my biology is so poor. I don't even know whether is our cell similar to that of a dog. Can we tell a dog cell under microscope? I guess we can't. We have to see the dog gene to be sure. Right?
So, why can't we make a gene of a monster, if we are able to synthesize genes (from scratch)? |
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"We did not create life from scratch : we transformed existing life into new life.Nor did we design and build a new chromosome from scratch."
also from this :
"However, despite more than a hundred years of experimentation with self-assembly, no one has successfully demonstrated the
synthesis of life in the laboratory according to this principle."
Even the synthetic vitamins we make have turned out to be harmful. Quantum physicists have shown that natural nutrients have a bio field which has properties of light. This is only present with live source vitamins and nutrients. When we try to duplicate these in a lab we can't.
There so much to creation we don't understand. I marvel that some don't see how far off we are.
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Reps: 24,672,635,970,394,960 (power: 24,672,635,970,406) | | Originally Posted by juvenissun We can make proteins from scratch. Right?
And gene is made of proteins (right?). So can we make some genes yet?
Not that I know of. We can have living cells make proteins for us. For example add spider DNA in goat embryos so their milk will have the protein that make silk so flexible like spider webs. In the link above they use yeast to produce their chromosome.
Still adding spider DNA to goat doesn't cause the goat to start shooting web out their rear ends. So Spider-Man only exist in stories just like evolution stories.
Remember proteins are very tiny so you need nano-machines to make them. Living cells happen to have the required nano-machines.
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