Seeking Messiah

If I may ask, when you discuss the issue of converting once to Chasid, what was your experience...and are there things you still hold to from that paticular frame of thought? Additionally, what specific questions are you looking for answers for? If asking on MJism, are you investigating any MJish fellowships near you which may be MJAA or UMJC?

In regards to the Communion subject being literal, I can definately relate sicne many have often noted the many ways in which communion is taken to simply be symbolism as opposed to having a greater reality. The concept of Real (literal ) Prescence is always a multi-faceted issue in light of how many concepts do take on a supernatural reality. Personally, I tend to lean toward those in MJism who support Consubstantiation ( the idea that in the communion, the body and blood of Christ, and the bread and wine, coexist in union with each other )....and as another noted, “Luther illustrated it by the analogy of the iron put into the fire whereby both fire and iron are united in the red-hot iron and yet each continues unchanged” (The Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church, F.L. Cross, Ed., London: Oxford, 1958, p. 337). Of course, I can understand differing reasons as to why others may not accept it (as the Consubstantian view alongside Literal Prescence/Real prescence are both based on an ultra-literal interpretation of Scripture that can lead to some issues textually if always taking that approach with other passages)---but on some things, it doesn't seem to be an issue anymore than it's somehow a problem to believe that we are united/made spiritually one with Christ as His Bride (Ephesians 5) or that we're supernaturally His Body (I Corinthians 12). .....and I think what helps to simplify alot of things is remembering that ultimately, according to I Corinthians 11, the reality is that Communion/the Lord's Supper was always to be taken seriously since being flippant toward it brought about the judgement of the Lord upon others (more discussed here in #38 ).

For those who are Hebrew Catholics, it has always been interesting considering a Jewish perspective on the ways Jewish mysticism on communion developed and the ways that it can connect with the scriptures....and it is also interesting when examining how many Jewish believers have often noted how there was always a mystical element in Communion that was never meant to be removed or rationalized to simple symbolism (more discussed here in #37 #38 and #38 /#57 ) ----one of the reasons many tend to go into liturgical circles such as Catholicism (or Orthodoxy) if coming out of camps such as Chasidism or Chasidic Judaism.....unless they are apart of Messianic Jewish fellowships that already lean toward the mystical side of things already. If interested, there's an excellent book on the issue entitled Jesus and the Jewish Roots of the Eucharist: Unlocking the Secrets of the Last Supper by Brant Pitre (as seen here, here and here) that may bless you.


Lifting you up and praying you'd find the community you're searching for, as it's always a journey and the Lord is always walking with us

I was raised a protestant, converted to Judaism, then converted to Catholicism. I came out of the Catholic church because of what Jesus said to the pharisees in Matthew 15, the catholics make unto themselves laws no man can follow. I want to be a person who follows Messiah, but can't find where I belong.
I know that I won't find a church I agree totally with, but am looking for the closest to the early Church as I can find. This leads me to the MJAA and UMJA. I want to find where Ha-shem has called me to be.
The major problems I am having is that I believe in the literal Communion as pointed to in John 5. All the churches that believe that way baptize infants, which is pointless. I believe every word of the three creeds (athanasius, nicene, and apostles) I believe that scripture is the word of the Father with out error. I believe that Yshua is the Word of the Father as prescribed in John 1.
Since I was a converted Chasid at one point, should I look to messianic Judaism as a Messianic goyim, or am I just going to find more unanswered questions. I really don't know where to go, who to turn to for advice.
Don't be afraid for my soul, I am saved, I read the scriptures daily, and pray much. I just can't find a community of believers where I belong. Pray for me

I was raised a protestant, converted to Judaism, then converted to Catholicism. I came out of the Catholic church because of what Jesus said to the pharisees in Matthew 15, the catholics make unto themselves laws no man can follow. I want to be a person who follows Messiah, but can't find where I belong.
I know that I won't find a church I agree totally with, but am looking for the closest to the early Church as I can find. This leads me to the MJAA and UMJA. I want to find where Ha-shem has called me to be.
The major problems I am having is that I believe in the literal Communion as pointed to in John 5. All the churches that believe that way baptize infants, which is pointless. I believe every word of the three creeds (athanasius, nicene, and apostles) I believe that scripture is the word of the Father with out error. I believe that Yshua is the Word of the Father as prescribed in John 1.
Since I was a converted Chasid at one point, should I look to messianic Judaism as a Messianic goyim, or am I just going to find more unanswered questions. I really don't know where to go, who to turn to for advice.
Don't be afraid for my soul, I am saved, I read the scriptures daily, and pray much. I just can't find a community of believers where I belong. Pray for me