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Unread 22nd May 2012, 02:54 PM
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what disqualifies you becoming a salvation army officer

Hi all,

My wife is starting to feel the call to become a salvation officer.

We are new christians so will not be for a few years yet but we both see that in our future.

However, my wife is currently going through a bankruptcy due tpo debts incurred from a divorce some years ago. Does being divorced or bankrupt disqualify you from being an officer in the salvation army in the UK
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Unread 8th July 2012, 07:36 PM
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My advice to you would be to speak to your Corps Officer, as that is you first contact when you feel the call.

The Salvation Army Website may also get you on right path to follow the call

Hope it helps.
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Ministry and the divorce

Originally Posted by SarenR View Post
Hi all,

My wife is starting to feel the call to become a salvation officer.

We are new christians so will not be for a few years yet but we both see that in our future.

However, my wife is currently going through a bankruptcy due tpo debts incurred from a divorce some years ago. Does being divorced or bankrupt disqualify you from being an officer in the salvation army in the UK
You may find officership out of reach because of the divorce and re-marriage in your wife's back ground. In the past it would have barred you from the ministry in all Evangelical Churches, based on Jesus' statement in Matthew 5:31 KJV and later Paul's stated in 1 Timothy 3:4 KJV. Some would say that Paul was speaking of deacons, however anything required of a deacon must also apply to one entering the pulpit.

I haven't heard that the Army has changed its policy on divorce and remarriage, however even if they have Jesus' word still out strips any Church doctrine.

Sorry to be so blunt, I know that was not what you wanted to hear but any minister or Christian has to live by the scriptures and that is not always easy.
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Saren, I can only hope that you did indeed speak with your Corps officer rather than take some of the advice offered on here. Divorce and/remarriage are NOT a barrier to officership in our Army. I am both divorced and remarried, and my husband and I were married in our Corps with the full blessing of our Corps Officers and Territorial HQ. Contrary to the opinions, and I stress that they are only that - opinions - of some in this forum, should your wife feel genuinely called to Officership, then that true calling comes from God alone, which "outstrips" anyone here on earth.

As for the bankruptcy, that itself should not present a problem - the requirement is that an officer candidate should not have serious debts, mainly because the salary of an officer is not normally sufficient to service debts.

I can answer these questions, as I HAVE discussed them with my Corps Officers, and with the Territorial Recruitment Officer.

I quote directly from the Salvation Army's own website
"Jesus taught that divorce is failure (Mark 10:2-12; Matthew 19: 3-9). Salvationists believe, however, that his attitude to those caught up in marital strife would never be anything but loving and compassionate.

Therefore, The Salvation Army, whilst defending vigorously the ongoing relevance of God's will for men and women in relation to marriage, recognizes the reality that some marriages fail. It is therefore willing, under God, to offer counsel and practical help to couples so affected.

The Army permits (but does not require) its officers to perform a marriage ceremony for a divorced person, following careful counselling, where it is considered that remarriage could lead to the healing of emotional wounds. Sound doctrine with practical mercy are the hallmarks of the Salvationist's approach to marital and emotional strife."

Amen to that, and amen to the love & mercy shown by true Christians everywhere. In HIM there is NO condemnation, we are ALL new creations. Hallelujah.
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Originally Posted by nvrbnunloved View Post
Saren, I can only hope that you did indeed speak with your Corps officer rather than take some of the advice offered on here. Divorce and/remarriage are NOT a barrier to officership in our Army. I am both divorced and remarried, and my husband and I were married in our Corps with the full blessing of our Corps Officers and Territorial HQ. Contrary to the opinions, and I stress that they are only that - opinions - of some in this forum, should your wife feel genuinely called to Officership, then that true calling comes from God alone, which "outstrips" anyone here on earth.

As for the bankruptcy, that itself should not present a problem - the requirement is that an officer candidate should not have serious debts, mainly because the salary of an officer is not normally sufficient to service debts.

I can answer these questions, as I HAVE discussed them with my Corps Officers, and with the Territorial Recruitment Officer.

I quote directly from the Salvation Army's own website
"Jesus taught that divorce is failure (Mark 10:2-12; Matthew 19: 3-9). Salvationists believe, however, that his attitude to those caught up in marital strife would never be anything but loving and compassionate.

Therefore, The Salvation Army, whilst defending vigorously the ongoing relevance of God's will for men and women in relation to marriage, recognizes the reality that some marriages fail. It is therefore willing, under God, to offer counsel and practical help to couples so affected.

The Army permits (but does not require) its officers to perform a marriage ceremony for a divorced person, following careful counselling, where it is considered that remarriage could lead to the healing of emotional wounds. Sound doctrine with practical mercy are the hallmarks of the Salvationist's approach to marital and emotional strife."

Amen to that, and amen to the love & mercy shown by true Christians everywhere. In HIM there is NO condemnation, we are ALL new creations. Hallelujah.
As always (which is one of the many reasons I married her) I couldn't have put that better. As Laura advised, speak to your officer as neither the financial situation nor the divorce should disqualify the Salvationist from officership. If that had been the case, General Booth would have been very short of officers!!!

God Bless you both.
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Bumping this thread up a few notches in case Saren comes back in.
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The two above me are correct. This Amisk, I believe does not know Army Doctrine, nor Army Rules and Regulations. The calling of God, is most important. The ability to do second. Third and 4th are personal issues that may prevent you from being as efficient, and effective of an Officer as possible right away. Some territories do ask that you make substantial gains on a massive loss before entering. You pay your own way to become an Officer. Just know... That if Gods call is for you to enter the ministry, to not would be a bigger hurt to Him than you worrying over words in His book.
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Originally Posted by TrueSBHLove2012 View Post
The two above me are correct. This Amisk, I believe does not know Army Doctrine, nor Army Rules and Regulations. The calling of God, is most important. The ability to do second. Third and 4th are personal issues that may prevent you from being as efficient, and effective of an Officer as possible right away. Some territories do ask that you make substantial gains on a massive loss before entering. You pay your own way to become an Officer. Just know... That if Gods call is for you to enter the ministry, to not would be a bigger hurt to Him than you worrying over words in His book.
Thank you Couldn't have put it better.
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The question should be not will the Army stop them, but should the Army hold them ...divorce is serious at lease it use to be but it seems we bend rules to often and what is a rule one year may not be the next.
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Originally Posted by TrueSBHLove2012 View Post
The two above me are correct. This Amisk, I believe does not know Army Doctrine, nor Army Rules and Regulations. The calling of God, is most important. The ability to do second. Third and 4th are personal issues that may prevent you from being as efficient, and effective of an Officer as possible right away. Some territories do ask that you make substantial gains on a massive loss before entering. You pay your own way to become an Officer. Just know... That if Gods call is for you to enter the ministry, to not would be a bigger hurt to Him than you worrying over words in His book.
I may not know Army doctrine, I have read my Bible enough to know what Christ said about the issue.
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