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21st May 2012, 12:53 AM
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When the Third Temple is built, what form of YHVH will be pronounced by the Kohen Gadol?
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21st May 2012, 02:20 AM
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Reps: 8,137,938,122,121,036,800 (power: 8,137,938,122,121,049) | | Originally Posted by Zacharias  When the Third Temple is built, what form of YHVH will be pronounced by the Kohen Gadol?
What do you mean? Are you asking what He will call Himself? What we will call Him? I don't know.
It's legend that no one knew the pronuciation except the High Priest officiating (and any preceeding him, of course). That is the explanation of why the priests got so upset when Yeshua answered them saying, "Before Abraham was, I AM." (That is, He didn't actually say the specific words 'I AM', He spoke the actual Name.) As far as they were concerned, He was not in a position to have known the Name and they were upset that He knew it and spoke it out loud.
I don't know that this is true, it's just what I have heard.
And, again, if that is what you are asking, I have no idea what we will call Him other than Adonai. |
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"thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name".
So keeping the word of the Lord is more important. Because sometimes in the past the people cried out "the temple of the Lord, the temple of the Lord" but did not obey God's word.
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21st May 2012, 01:46 PM
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It's legend that no one knew the pronuciation except the High Priest officiating (and any preceeding him, of course). That is the explanation of why the priests got so upset when Yeshua answered them saying, "Before Abraham was, I AM." (That is, He didn't actually say the specific words 'I AM', He spoke the actual Name.) As far as they were concerned, He was not in a position to have known the Name and they were upset that He knew it and spoke it out loud.
I don't know that this is true, it's just what I have heard.
And, again, if that is what you are asking, I have no idea what we will call Him other than Adonai.
I am under the impression that, when sacrifices are resumed, once a year on Yom Kippur, the High Priest goes into the Holy of Holies and pronounces the Name YHVH. Is that not correct? If so, how will he know what to pronounce YHVH as (since the pronunciation is lost)?
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21st May 2012, 06:55 PM
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Reps: 8,137,938,122,121,036,800 (power: 8,137,938,122,121,049) | | Originally Posted by Zacharias I am under the impression that, when sacrifices are resumed, once a year on Yom Kippur, the High Priest goes into the Holy of Holies and pronounces the Name YHVH. Is that not correct? If so, how will he know what to pronounce YHVH as (since the pronunciation is lost)?
I don't think that's a problem too big for Hashem to handle when the need arises. |
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Where in Scripture does it say G-d will require sacrifice again? Or desire it again - especially when He has stated that He's had His fill of it already? |
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Reps: 8,137,938,122,121,036,800 (power: 8,137,938,122,121,049) | | Originally Posted by Nekoda Where in Scripture does it say a third temple will be built?
Where in Scripture does it say G-d will require sacrifice again? Or desire it again - especially when He has stated that He's had His fill of it already?
Read Ezekiel's temple chapters and Zechariah.
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Reps: 8,137,938,122,121,036,800 (power: 8,137,938,122,121,049) | | Originally Posted by Nekoda Since you have directed me to Ezekiel as proof of a third physical temple, and I am somewhat familiar with what Ezekiel says about it - I'd like you, as a Messianic Jew who is allowed to teach, to clarify:
Do you really believe that on the East side of this temple there will be a bunch of men with their backs to the East facing gate worshiping the sun towards the east? (Eze 8:16)
How long will they be there? Forever, or just on Saturday or Sunday?
Do you really believe that by the door of the North Gate there will be women weeping for Tammuz? (Eze 8:14) How long will they be there?
Was Stephen lying when he said:
Acts 7:48-50?
Do Messianic Jews actually look forward to the building of a physical Ezekiel temple where the Book of Ezekiel describes all kinds of abominations that take place around it's gates?
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Ezekiel's temple is a real temple. And as Lulav has pointed out, it's noted in Rev. and Yeshua will be serving in that Temple.
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