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18th May 2012, 03:33 PM
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Reps: 1,574,738,335,962,253,824 (power: 1,574,738,335,962,329) | | | “Catholic” Theologians Blast Bishops for Opposing Gay “Marriage”
A group of “Catholic” theologians are quoted in today’s online magazine The Daily Beast excoriating the bishops for upholding the Catholic Church’s teaching on same-sex “marriage.” Some even go so far as to advocate gay “marriage” not only as a civil matter but within the Catholic Church. If one were to read this article called “Do Most Catholic Theologians Support Same Sex Marriage?” you might get the faulty impression that theologians at Jesuit institutions make up the sum total of Catholic theologians. The piece quotes professors of theology at Fairfield, Marquette, and Santa Clara. And that’s it. Oddly, they didn’t quote any theologians to argue as strongly in favor of the Church’s stance on marriage. The online magazine also spoke to Fr. James Martin, culture editor of America Magazine, who tepidly stated Catholic teaching but is not quoted arguing for or against it in any meaningful way. “[W]hile many non-Catholic Americans may take the political position put forward by the bishops as the final word in American Catholic life, progressive Catholic thinkers and theologians say it is time for the church to step back from political arguments about same-sex marriage, and reconsider its own position,” the article states.
Paul Lakeland, a professor of religious studies director of the Center for Catholic Studies at Fairfield University, a Catholic university in Connecticut, is placed “among the theologians who say the bishops are in the wrong.”  Dr. Paul Lakeland
Lakeland, a former Jesuit priest, was the conference organizer at Fairfield University for the “More than a Monologue” conference which The Cardinal Newman Society reported on here. Lakeland’s 2004 book, The Liberation of the Laity, displays how little regard he has for the Catholic bishops: “What we have is an episcopate of men selected more for their commitment to the party line on outmoded ideas about contraception, ordination, and homosexuality, more for their administrative capabilities than for their stature as spiritual leaders.” In 2009 Lakeland reportedly opposed Bishop William Lori and testified in support of Connecticut State legislation that y would have wrested legal control of Catholic parishes away from the diocesan bishop. Continued- http://catholicexchange.com/catholic-theologians-blast-bishops-for-opposing-gay-marriage/
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18th May 2012, 04:04 PM
|  | Beaucoup-Dięn-Cai-Dāu
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Reps: 1,919,507,348,067,866,880 (power: 1,919,507,348,067,894) | | | You know, I'm sure all these people would find a welcome home in the Episcopal Church, where they could have all the female priests and homosexual weddings they wanted, and they would help to make up for the growing numbers of Episcopalians jumping ship and becoming Catholic.
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19th May 2012, 12:26 AM
|  | Since 1958, we were deceived.
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Reps: 1,026,590,660,785,224,192 (power: 1,026,590,660,785,242) | | | Well, it's about time, they either repent or become Episcopalian. Either way, they ought to realise that the Roman Catholic Church will NEVER alter her position regarding the inviolability of the sacrament of marriage or its immutable requirements regarding the necessary 'matter' for the sacrament of marriage. Sacramental marriage can only be effectuated as a sacrament, validly with the correct formulae, form, and substance (only a man and woman who are not of close relation that exchanged their free, uncoerced consent may effectuate a valid marriage) with one man and one woman only.
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20th May 2012, 09:04 PM
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Reps: 44,752,971,341,521,120 (power: 44,752,971,341,524) | | | I am not sure what the problem is--If the Government says they are for civil liiberties for all--what about mine and my church. If homosexuals want to get married fine, let them, I really don't care. However, don't force my church to conduct them. Like it was said above, they can become epis. You cannot give one group a civil right by taking it away from another.
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But we've got to follow through on our ideals or we betray something at the heart of who we are. Outside these gates, and even within them, the culture of idealism is under siege, beset by materialism and narcissism and all the other isms" of indifference." Bono |
20th May 2012, 10:15 PM
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Reps: 121,247,285,735,312,080 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Magnus Maximus  You cannot give one group a civil right by taking it away from another.
I like that part of what you said. | |
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