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16th May 2012, 10:34 PM
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Reps: 1,574,738,335,962,253,824 (power: 1,574,738,335,962,329) | | | Amendment Protects Religious Liberty of Military Members The Fiscal Year 2013 defense-authorization bill says that the armed forces 'shall accommodate the conscience and sincerely held moral principles and religious beliefs' of its members regarding 'the appropriate and inappropriate expression of human sexuality.' Read more: http://www.ncregister.com/#ixzz1v5fnt4qC
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17th May 2012, 09:21 AM
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Reps: 169,541,243,037,104,576 (power: 169,541,243,037,111) | | | This is great. It means any military member can disobey any order if he says it conflicts with his religion. This will be the first step to disbanding the military. | 
17th May 2012, 09:33 AM
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17th May 2012, 09:35 AM
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Reps: 550,209,461,662,961,920 (power: 550,209,461,662,988) | | | My instinct is that the purported threat to chaplains' rights to preach the message of their faiths is greatly exaggerated.
And that this amendment is another diversionary tactic that keeps Congress from focusing on their real responsibilities.
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17th May 2012, 11:52 AM
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Reps: 167,059,453,223,181,760 (power: 0) | | | If they're going to allow all this diversity - fine. But Christians should not be forced to accept it when it goes against the Bible, the Church, thousands of years of history and their own personal beliefs. | 
17th May 2012, 12:48 PM
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Katherine, how many years did you serve in the military? | 
17th May 2012, 03:27 PM
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Reps: 169,541,243,037,104,576 (power: 169,541,243,037,111) | | | Suppose someone gives us an example of what this alleged denial of religious liberty is? The right to live in a world without gay people? Tough luck, I have no sympathy for you. | 
17th May 2012, 03:34 PM
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Reps: 79,639,822,304,229,648 (power: 79,639,822,304,233) | | Originally Posted by KatherineS Suppose someone gives us an example of what this alleged denial of religious liberty is? The right to live in a world without gay people? Tough luck, I have no sympathy for you.
No just the right to speak against, harass, bully and attack homos based on "deeply felt religious convictions."
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17th May 2012, 10:58 PM
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Reps: 550,209,461,662,961,920 (power: 550,209,461,662,988) | | | My husband is a Vietnam vet--I was never in the military.
My daughter's bf's dad has had PTSD from his Vietnam service for many years. He used to shoot at targets (presumably human) from helicopters.
I know a little bit about the horrors of war from them--enough to know that 1) working side by side with gay members of the military is not the cause of PTSD; 2) any priest or minister who wants to find moral issues to discuss in homilies or Bible studies in a war zone who can't find anything more relevant to talk about than homosexuality should be given a dishonorable discharge and booted into civilian life; and 3) these men and women need comfort, support, consolation, encouragement, healing, and God's love.
I could not imagine a single reason for chaplains to obsess over homosexuality--with all the trauma and desperate needs their soldiers face--unless they are emotionally stunted themselves.
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18th May 2012, 12:10 AM
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