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Sumerians and the ancient Annunaki

How many have herd of this civilization and the super advance beings called the Annunaki the 12 tablets and the super advanced disc roller? The Sumerians are said to be the oldest civilization known to mankind. The 11 tablets are written in the first language ever known to man, and contain information on how humans were created, its also said that the 11th tablet even talks of Noah and the flood it tells of a ark that Noah built to save mankind, its said that he built a submarine and not a floating style ark because he knew the flood would be caused by a tsunami and so a floating style ark wouldnt stand a chance and would be destroyed by the huge wave. it also tells of the Annunaki gathering 2 samples of DNA from all living creatures and put in the ark with Noah.( I'm not sure his name is Noah )

If anyone has heard of this I would like to know what your opinion is on this information.
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They are also claimed to be the ones who actually built a lot of the ancient wonders, such as the pyramids, and hedge stone for example. They also explain how the solar system was formed to an extent and in one of the disc rollers it lays out the planets in the exact order with graphic detail such as which planets had water etc.etc.

lots of interesting thing, to say the least. I think there is a book called "The Epic Of Gilgamesh" that tells a lot more of the story with a lot more details.

Again if anyone else has heard of any of this Id appreciate your input or opinions on what you know about this.
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Look up Nephilim. thats who they are... The "Giants" mentioned in Genesis 6.
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Look up Nephilim. thats who they are... The "Giants" mentioned in Genesis 6.
Yes it is to my understanding that the stories of the Annunaki were translated down the centuries and even made it into the bible, it is said that the OT is based on a really high percentage of exactly what the epic of Gilgamesh speaks about thousands of years before The Egyptians, Jews, Jesus, or the Bible. This makes it even more interesting when you consider that fact that this predates everything we are taught.

I don't think that any of this information discredits that there is a God in any way shape or form, But if somehow these things were proven to be true it would put a huge twist on what we have been taught about religion, and science...

From what I've seen there is a lot more to this than just some old conspiracy or folk talk. Its said that there are substantial amounts of evidence and proof to back up what is being said about these ancient civilizations' A lot more archaeological evidence than what has been found to back up most of the people that are spoke about in the bible, for example there has never been a single archaeological find on Solomons Temple, King Davids or his great kingdom, Moses, Abraham,or any other of the MAIN character's in the bible. There has been finds on a few people named/described in the bible but NONE of the main character's yet this civilization predates The time of the bible by thousands of years and they have been able to find substantial amounts of evidence... And some of the things they find are way more advanced than the things people are able to make even today... computers and ipods don't have anything on what is claimed these Annunaki people had.

I'm not saying any of this is fact because I honestly don't know, I do find it interesting and would like to find out more on it.
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It is my contention that these 'Sumerians' were of the Adamic 'formation' found in Genesis 2:8, separate from the 'creation' of 'man' in Gen 1:27 You will notice that before Adam was formed, God saw that there was no man to 'till the ground', even though on Day/Age 6 He created male and female!

We know the Sumerians taught agriculture to the surrounding areas, and the archaeological findings show these people hare red hair and very Caucasian features. (Adam in Hebrew literally means 'ruddy')

These stories of the Annunaki surfaced recently with new focus on 'planet x' or Nibiru. There is quite the cult following on this today as can be seen by any internet search.

Sumer was located in the same area as the 'steppes of Eden', from whence Adam and Eve left to the East. The same direction that Cain went to build a city and where he found his wife. (Again, if Adam was the 1st man in general, from where did Cain find his wife and why did he build a city if there were only 3 humans on the earth at the time)

Remember that the Flood took place because the people on the earth-Hebrew 'erets' this land, this place- were corrupt before God and He regretted creating them. So they were destroyed. The flood was NOT a global scale event, and can be easily proven that it was a massive local flood in the region where Gods literal children resided.

It has long been thought that Noah and Lot were the very builders of many great wonders in the world, and some of the Apocryphal books shed more light on this subject as well.

We have to remember as well that there was no such thing as a 'jew' in the old Testament. They were Israelites, and Noah was an Adamic man, perfect in his generations(an unmixed family), this is why he was chosen. It was through Him that Isaac and Jacob would eventually come, and thus our Messiah. The 1st time 'jew' appears in scripture is in 2 Kings when the Israelites(not jews) go to war with the Jews to drive them from the land.
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I heard about Annunaki. They were children of some big dude nephilim. They apparently lived separated from others but were arrogant and even wanted to be worshiped. God didn't let it slide, of course, so they were wiped out during the flood. Many accounts that are left are half truths perhaps even written by people who had remaining knowledge of nephilim after the flood. Unless, of course, some manuscripts survived the flood which would be hard but I guess possible. Anyway, they claim a lot for themselves, those Anunaki, and many people around the world, including those waiting for aliens to appear on 21st of December this year, have been seduced by the mass media into believing this, I'll be blatant, bunch of lies. It's not an attack on Christianity, which is curious enough, but just some manuscripts a few guys found and some dude named Sitchin interpreted "ancient astronauts" from them and poof: there you have some X-Planet, 2012 and they connected the accounts of the flood of different civilizations and ended up with a hoax.

They even claim; guys like Bob Robert Dean; that they personally know Jesus and that they were taken up to second heaven or something like that or were even taken to space by some creatures who claimed to be angels of the Lord.

I find it interesting how this theory aligns with evolutionary theory of creation or theistic evolution in other words. They who believe that those Anunaki were aliens will often tell you that those aliens evolved billions of years before we did and that is the way they explain why are those "aliens" (demons in reality) more advanced than humans in a biological sense. That theory is also being used by those who claim that Roosevelt accident was about aliens or stuff like that. While there might be strange organisms living around they are by no means more advanced than us. I wouldn't wonder if demons could pervert the human genome somehow and make who knows what out of it but they, for sure, can't create anything. They are seducing people by signs and wonders and half truths into believing all sorts of strange things.

It's beautiful that we have the Bible that can definitely discern those "alien" spirits to be of the devil. I know this isn't what OP really asked but I just thought I'd share anyway.

Maybe they did something to genome, who knows, I personally doubt that the reason people were big was because of genome modification but there could be some truth to it.

Apparently the atmosphere before the flood was thicker because of the canopy of water that protected the earth by absorbing UV rays and personally I believe that theory holds water (sorry about that ). People might have been able to grow big too. Or a bit bigger than they are now.

Annunaki, whoever they were, are not that important today. There are some old manuscripts that hold Sumeria to be the oldest civilization but I don't know how anyone could know about it because if they are 7000 years old than they were among the first people who lived before the flood. They certainly wrote seductive lies on their manuscripts about all sorts of fake deities, Annunaki just being one of them.



Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. His word is sharper than any two edged sword. If you read the Old Testament again and try to see what people who believe Annunaki were aliens say, you will see that Annunaki manuscripts are probably a lot younger than Sitchin claimed them to be and that they were perhaps even an attempt to pervert the Old Testament. That stuff is demonic through and through.

God bless!

PS: Bible is NOT based on any other text, it is actually a straw argument. Bible might have been written, that is, Genesis, later than those manuscripts but that does not make it a copy. Do not fall for the lies of zietgiest or whatever you spell it, they are full of the devil.
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I hate to rain on this parade, but with the church in dire straights, with lukewamness wrapped around us like a straight jacket, with secret sins still gripping us, choking what little life there is, is this how we should seek truth that will set us "free indeed"? What good can come of this? Will it make us less worldly? More single eyed? Love our neighbor deeper? These fables have no truth to set us free, and with chains upon us, robbing us of pur peace and our joy, it would seem to me that getting the heavy yoke strapped to our shoulders off our necks would be of prime importance. Right now we are ill prepared for what is stirring on the horizon.

Look guys, I truly mean no disrespect. But as one poster alluded to, this stuff is "fun" to look into, is enticing, and yes, it has developed a cult following. Will we ourselves benefit from speculating? I know my answer. Do you know yours?

I am no better than you. All I know is that we are called to be single eyed and run our race as if our souls depended upon it. And they do.

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It is my contention that these 'Sumerians' were of the Adamic 'formation' found in Genesis 2:8, separate from the 'creation' of 'man' in Gen 1:27 You will notice that before Adam was formed, God saw that there was no man to 'till the ground', even though on Day/Age 6 He created male and female!
Great googly-moogly, man!



So you don't understand that Genesis 2 is a retelling of the Creation Story from Adam's perspective, whereas Genesis 1 is God's view of the Creation?

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I'm sure there are a lot of Baptists who have gone to university and earned BAs in a lot of the liberal arts/humanities, and science programs and do actually find that our academic and cultural heritage had its beginnings at Sumer, Akkad, a little interesting; and maybe the fact that Ur of the Chaldees is where Abraham was born, smack dab in the middle of Sumer might be kind of interesting too. Maybe talking about the life, technology, and social practices of the people Abraham lived with has no real practical application of spiritual truth, but hey, Abraham lived in a world of cultic and speculative practices, and somehow he heard the voice of God and followed the calling of the Lord to go to the land of Canaan, a land also full of non-edifying practices and yet he held onto his faith and lived in the promise of God. I think it may have a little merit to know a little about the world he lived in. I mean world war 2 is ancient history too, why do we need to learn anything about it or from it?
Revisionist and speculative aside, the Sumerians and Akkadians were the first to develop a system of writing, to record little things like business transactions, providing receipts for purchase, stuff we don't use anymore. Yeah, they wrote on clay tablets, they farmed and grew grains, developed basic ox driven carts, used them to sift the grain, stuff we don't really use. They figured out the 60 second minute, how many degrees go into a circle, stuff no carpenter has to know. They were descendants of Shem, and spoke a Semitic language, not that Hebrew is Semitic, or Syrian for that matter (one moment, they both are).
As any society that descended from Adam, they messed up. They put together stories to tell the kids, tried to deify their early leaders (it's like Egypt or Rome never tried that) making them the main characters of their Creation Epic. We're looking at dates starting from about 3300 BC for cuneiform tablets, well within the timeline from Noah to Abraham.

There's nothing earth-shattering about this stuff, other than it happened to be the cradle of civilization.

Like any non-Christian society they had different gods, different myths, and there are reputable books available on the subject. I don't know if people remember the latest Iraq war when many scholars, archeologists, and people who cared advised the military not to bomb the museums in Iraq because of the depository of records and artifacts etc., that were kept there (there couldn't possibly be a black market could there?). No need to go to the (Royal) British museum's website and check out their exhibits, I mean why would anyone go to the pyramids in Egypt just to see the Israelite's handywork?
I kind of feel the whole subject is a point of contact to people who are interested in this stuff, and to speculate, God also had His people right there, living in faith, who may have been concerned about their neighbour's salvation too. Just a thought.
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I have also read about the Nephilim and I think there is some validity to this. There is much info on you tube. You can also read the Book of Enoch, I think he was Noah's great grandfather and he walked with God. Enoch is not included as a book in the Bible, but many historians use it. I want to tell you something and I am in no way saying I am right, but I have reasoned and thought about this alot.

Someone above mentioned that the Bible stated Noah was perfect in his generation.
Their interpretation was I think meaning mixed with outsiders, my interpretation is mixed with the seed of the Nephilim. Imagine if Satan who is bent on keeping the Savior from being born could interfere with the actual lineage through which he would come. And the Father protected the lineage so that Jesus could come. This subject gets complicated and I am hard pressed to explain it in a coherent way. But those people who lived long long ago were not un intelligent, many were brilliant. They had technology, understanding of things we do not even understand. They tinkered with unthinkable subjects, like human DNA. God sent the flood to wipe out the Nephilim, course some survived. (If Satan could create life that was not fully human, he would create bodies for the demons, Nephilim, Rephalium, scuse my spelling.) Because if a creature is not fully human he cannot have a human spirit from God. The reason I mention this is that if you stop and think, this is what is happening now again. Men are combining humans and animals, humans and plants, these creatures are not of God, but they will provide bodies for demons in the end times. Even now in secret laboratories around the globe this is going on. What a horror. Dang, wish I could explain this all better. Start studying, thinking, praying, considering what UFO s really are and what is going on.
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