why should women stay virgins until they get married?

Originally Posted by groups postings

That naive Christian woman now likely regrets "overlooking" the "Good Guys" at her church for the scum she gave her vagina to.

I just have the worst mental image... like, "Sweetie, you'll never guess what I'm about to give you today! Careful now, don't drop it, I only had one..."

riginally Posted by AIDSfan1488
Actually some of them were "nice girls".

One girl who I deflowered was really sweet and innocent and the only girl around my age I know who went to church every sunday. Not brilliant, but she wasn't dumb either.

She threw her virginity away on me instead of all her male church-going Christian friends who were all in love with her,
I never called her back once I got what I wanted.

It's an interesting observation, but personally I've never known someone with a healthy attitude towards sex who -didn't- have sex before marriage. (Healthy = Understanding the risks and how to minimize them, not feeling ashamed of their sexual desires, expecting to be treated with love and respect by their partners, etc.) I'm not saying none exist, but it seems that most people with a healthy, guiltless, unafraid view of sex who are working off accurate knowledge of the risks (not the horror show that abstinence-only education so often pushes) and are in a long-term relationship simply don't have a lot of reasons not to do it.

So long as you use contraception and are both tested clean for stds, sex is just a pleasurable activity that can be a lot of fun and strengthen bonds of love and affection. Unless you have a cultural pressure not to do it (and that's not always a bad thing, so long as you aren't being forced to comply) there's just no good reason not to.

Main problem I see with people who have had sex before marriage is that they think it IS just for "your pleasure" instead of being an obligation one partner must sometimes fulfill to another regardless of one's personal feelings. Indeed, we've had long threads on here where non-Christians and non-abstinent Christians absolutely bristle at the idea.

I've read all these threads. I haven't noticed that trend at all. If there are people that do think that way, they are terribad at sex. Period. New paragraph.

People who are good in bed are good because they know how to fulfill their partner's needs as well as their own. If you aren't giving your partner what they want in the sack, you are a lousy lay.

GP, while I don't consider myself a jerk, I do consider myself a real man. Not all people with a lot of sexual experience are jerks. In fact, probably most aren't.

I think you read what I said as a matter of act when the disagreement is over frequency, e.g., people who don't think they have to have sex with their marriage partner at all if they aren't in the mood or in need themselves. Many of these threads have been in the Married Couples section, BTW, so you may have missed them if you hang out in Society mostly.

Did you act toward women like that creep I posted about?
Get what you want then never call?
Then you were a good man.

Didn't say guys with a lot of experience were jerks.

Like I said, was posting that to be supportive of that poster and to thrash the players, who often need taken to the woodshed...

Your posts here make a lot of sense...

That naive Christian woman now likely regrets "overlooking" the "Good Guys" at her church for the scum she gave her vagina to.

Yes, I considered myself a Good Guy and one who never pressed women for sex and actually cared about a woman's Christian morality...

Main problem I see with people who have had sex before marriage is that they think it IS just for "your pleasure" instead of being an obligation one partner must sometimes fulfill to another regardless of one's personal feelings. Indeed, we've had long threads on here where non-Christians and non-abstinent Christians absolutely bristle at the idea.