| Unorthodox Theology A forum to discuss/debate theological doctrines not accepted by mainstream evangelical Christianity (eg. Full Preterism, Unitarianism)
Orthodox* and Unorthodox members welcome |
 | | 
11th May 2012, 04:51 PM
|  | Christian Gnostic
    
 | | Join Date: 24th February 2011
Posts: 3,603
Blessings: 21,167,140 My Mood 
Reps: 267,307,473,600,564,704 (power: 267,307,473,600,570) | | Originally Posted by Noxot  who wrote this Treatise on the resurrection? and where is he from?
I really don't know Noxot.
This is one of the scriptures found in the Nag Hammadi dig. They were all written in Coptic, but experts say they were written in Greek and rewritten in Coptic. Destined to stay a mystery I think.
__________________
Pastor Alpha& Omega Christian Gnostic Church(retired)
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Gnosis(direct experiential knowledge of God) It's not an "oh cool I'm a god" type thing. It's a calling up everybody you have ever known since childhood and apologizing for being a JERK type thing.~ Bro. Spark
Find Sophia's match for you at Gnosticmingle.com<-Not a real link "Duh"
|
11th May 2012, 04:56 PM
|  | Linnorm
26  
| | Join Date: 6th August 2007
Posts: 2,207
Blessings: 3,206,170 My Mood 
Reps: 780,331,152,489,879,552 (power: 780,331,152,489,887) | | Originally Posted by Soulgazer I really don't know Noxot.
This is one of the scriptures found in the Nag Hammadi dig. They were all written in Coptic, but experts say they were written in Greek and rewritten in Coptic. Destined to stay a mystery I think.
how close was that place to Alexandria?
__________________ Nikolai Berdyaev:
The Son of God and of man was crucified in this world. And in the same way spirit is constantly being crucified in the objectified world; the objectification of spirit is in fact its crucifixion.
The understanding of Christianity, as a religion of personal salvation from perdition, is a system of transcendental egoism, or transcendental utilitarianism and eudaimonism.
|
11th May 2012, 04:58 PM
| | Christian Gnostic
| | Join Date: 24th February 2011
Posts: 3,603
Blessings: 21,167,140 My Mood
Reps: 267,307,473,600,564,704 (power: 267,307,473,600,570) | | Originally Posted by Noxot how close was that place to Alexandria?
A couple hundred miles I think. Shorter than it is to Jerusalem, but not by much.
__________________
Pastor Alpha& Omega Christian Gnostic Church(retired)
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Gnosis(direct experiential knowledge of God) It's not an "oh cool I'm a god" type thing. It's a calling up everybody you have ever known since childhood and apologizing for being a JERK type thing.~ Bro. Spark
Find Sophia's match for you at Gnosticmingle.com<-Not a real link "Duh"
|
12th May 2012, 03:17 PM
|  | sin is diabolical abuse of fellow humans-1John 3:8
| | Join Date: 2nd November 2011 Location: UK
Posts: 2,378
Blessings: 121,192 My Mood 
Reps: 57,012,134,242,023,256 (power: 57,012,134,242,027) | | 
Originally Posted by Soulgazer FOOL-proof! Aye! 
What, then, is the resurrection?
The return from death and 'hell' [hades, olam] to life in the flesh as Jesus' resurrection :-
Luke 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
Revelation 20:13 ... death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
Acts 2:31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
It is always the disclosure of those who have risen.
Hebrews 6:2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
Hebrews 11:35 Women received their dead raised to life again: and others were tortured, not accepting deliverance; that they might obtain a better resurrection:
So this is untrue, Paul was not resurrected before disclosing the resurrection of all the dead ...
Romans 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection
John also, not after resurrection :-
John 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of judgement
For if you remember reading in the Gospel that Elijah appeared and Moses with him, do not think the resurrection is an illusion. It is no illusion, but it is truth!
Indeed, it is more fitting to say the world is an illusion, rather than the resurrection which has come into being through our Lord the Savior, Jesus Christ.
those in the resurrection are just as much [or not] illusion as those in the world , but it is true that all in the world [which may well be said to be an illusion since it ends and what is end-less spirit does not] will be resurrected to the new earth, equally transient, equally illusion of life...
thus one must distinguish what is true within the illusion of physical life from that which is true to the spirit...
so this passage seems confused , trying to say that life in the new earth is in the spirit, but it is not ... the third heaven, paradise ,is the spirit, not the new earth which is merely part of the way back to the spirit for most... a means to cause men to try Love and thus begin the three baptisms that lead to translaton [salvation]
But what am I telling you now? Those who are living shall die.
again for most this is true, but not for some saints, not even for Enoch and the other 23 elders of the Hebrews:-
Hebrews 11:5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.
John 8:51 Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.
How do they live in an illusion?
no problem really, it is like a dream, a virtual reality ... the problem is [for our limited understanding] how one can live outside the illusion, without food, without energy, without change that seemingly is the essence of life, without destruction integral to entropy increase, the arrow of time, so without time and space... our problem is not in understanding life in the resurrection but in even conceiving as to what the 'life' of the spirit could be.... which we know only by Love, being one with all...
The rich have become poor, and the kings have been overthrown. Everything is prone to change. The world is an illusion! - lest, indeed, I rail at things to excess!
true enough, but there is nothing to rail against, why would one rail at a temporary temporal illusion ????
But the resurrection does not have this aforesaid character, for it is the truth which stands firm.
a truth within the illusion supported by The Truth outside the illusion , but that does not mean it is not an illusion , indeed it must be , because the only thing which doesn't end is the spirit , that which ends , as life in the illusion does, is illusion both before and after resurrection...
the only difference with the FIRST resurrection [of saints who have died in Christ, not in sin] is that all saints of this earth are translated and immediately after resurrection to the body if they have died in Christ ... so it is translation of a man after ALL THREE baptisms that changes one to spirit, not resurrection [which only brings one from death to life] ... translation is the change of a LIVING perfected saint to spirit , it is nothing like resurrection of the dead to life...
It is the revelation of what is, and the transformation of things, and a transition into newness. For imperishability descends upon the perishable; the light flows down upon the darkness, swallowing it up;
this is clearly talking about translation, not resurrection ...
and the Pleroma fills up the deficiency.
Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:
it is as well then to remember that all this world is destroyed with the billions of men in it [Matt 7:13] in the wrath of God against all still sinners by Jesus return [when he takes the FEW saints in translation -Jude 1:14]
that it is the spirit of a man that survives destruction of this earth, nothing else , for the spirit is of God and nothing can destroy God , the spirit is not even subject to destruction because destruction is of its illusion, of physical life...
Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
the spirit is of God , is tied to Godman became a living soul only by the spirit creating the illusion of life in the illusion of man... thus the spirit is the essence of a man, the real man ... which is why God says man is made in His image, SPIRIT, not flesh...
Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness ...
Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
These are the symbols and the images of the resurrection. He it is who makes the good.
Therefore, do not think in part, O Rheginos, nor live in conformity with this flesh for the sake of unanimity, but flee from the divisions and the fetters, and already you have the resurrection.
again it is misleading, for whilst ALL are resurrected, there are two great resurrections, the first for the saints of THIS earth who have perfected Love in this life , who will be translated after any necessary resurrection if they die, and the resurrection of all sinners from hell and death to begin again to learn to Love in life, become saints and be saved at judgement day, having been freed from sin in death so God can baptise all flesh at last as promised [Joel 2:28] - Rev 20:13 - so countless many are saved at judgemnt day [Rev 7:9-10] who were all destroyed in the end of this earth as sinners [Matt 7:13] :-
Romans 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
that is why only the descendants of Jacob are mentioned in the new covenant of grace [Heb 8:8-12] , albeit all The House of Israel are today gentiles in every way but descent from Jacob, but the true gentiles are saved by death , wages of sin, freeing them from sin so they can learn to Love in the kingdom or in the lake of fire... only the few require grace and it is universally misunderstood in all mass churches of sinners led by sinners, simply because the church would not exists if the real covenant of grace in scripture were taught to sinners... but there is the mystery of sinners, why do they not check what they are told to believe against every word of God ? Why have they not SEEN what the new covenant SAYS ?
Why do they not know it says that the new covenant is with those whose fathers broke the old covenant, with the descendants of Jacob then, with Israel's two houses, two nation, both the house of Israel [vanished nation, now living as gentiles and worshipping idols] and the Jews [still mostly rejecting the house of Israel, but in contrast a recognisable nation and worshipping God in Judaism, however badly]
For if he who will die knows about himself that he will die - even if he spends many years in this life, he is brought to this - why not consider yourself as risen and (already) brought to this? If you have the resurrection but continue as if you are to die - and yet that one knows that he has died - why, then, do I ignore your lack of exercise? It is fitting for each one to practice in a number of ways, and he shall be released from this Element that he may not fall into error but shall himself receive again what at first was.
I see the argument and it would be useful for some to consider it, but it is false because not everyone must die [see above]
These things I have received from the generosity of my Lord, Jesus Christ. I have taught you and your brethren, my sons, considering them, while I have not omitted any of the things suitable for strengthening you.
Hebrews 8:11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
thus God does the teaching Himself... the saints d not teach the saints because God does so rather better ...
so someone is making a mistake , yet again, in this discourse...
But if there is one thing written which is obscure in my exposition of the Word, I shall interpret it for you (pl.) when you (pl.) ask. But now, do not be jealous of anyone who is in your number when he is able to help.
Many are looking into this which I have written to you. To these I say: Peace (be) among them and grace. I greet you and those who love you (pl.) in brotherly Love.~Treatise on the resurrection
again it is God's task to teach all who are His... and God's word needs no interpretation , not by saints or sinners :-
2 Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.  |
12th May 2012, 03:38 PM
| | Christian Gnostic
| | Join Date: 24th February 2011
Posts: 3,603
Blessings: 21,167,140 My Mood
Reps: 267,307,473,600,564,704 (power: 267,307,473,600,570) | | | We consider this writing sacred.
There is nothing wrong with this scripture. It is as it is, neither darkness or light, but stands as a mirror as do all scripture, and is several layers deep. Other than Enoch and Ezekiel, of which we have the legends that they did not die, everyone will die. Don't hold your breath waiting to get out of it; the material body will fail-- the possibility of avoiding it is two in fourteen billion.
The "Practice" is to consider ourselves as risen, to live in the resurrection, to not look on others as men or women, missing an arm or a leg, to see their race or the color of their skin, or financial status, but to see them as souls currently driving a vehicle.
Jesus said to them, "When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then you will enter [the kingdom]."~Thomas
No one CAN teach about God; God teaches about himself.(The pleroma fills the deficiency) Most other things require instruction, from potty training on up.
And so he dwells either in this world or in the resurrection or in the middle place. God forbid that I be found in there! In this world, there is good and evil. Its good things are not good, and its evil things not evil. But there is evil after this world which is truly evil - what is called "the middle". It is death. While we are in this world, it is fitting for us to acquire the resurrection, so that when we strip off the flesh, we may be found in rest and not walk in the middle. For many go astray on the way. For it is good to come forth from the world before one has sinned.~Philip
__________________
Pastor Alpha& Omega Christian Gnostic Church(retired)
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Gnosis(direct experiential knowledge of God) It's not an "oh cool I'm a god" type thing. It's a calling up everybody you have ever known since childhood and apologizing for being a JERK type thing.~ Bro. Spark
Find Sophia's match for you at Gnosticmingle.com<-Not a real link "Duh"
Last edited by Soulgazer; 12th May 2012 at 04:10 PM.
|
12th May 2012, 04:10 PM
| | sin is diabolical abuse of fellow humans-1John 3:8
| | Join Date: 2nd November 2011 Location: UK
Posts: 2,378
Blessings: 121,192 My Mood
Reps: 57,012,134,242,023,256 (power: 57,012,134,242,027) | | 
Originally Posted by Soulgazer We consider this writing sacred.
only the spirit can be sacred... so only the words of God and saints and prophets are even pointing at what is sacred ... thus the scripture of God is given to reprove and correct the words of men...
Mark 8:38 Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.
2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
There is nothing wrong with this scripture.
As I have shown it breaks many of the scriptures of saints and prophets and even those of Jesus ... it makes mistakes relative to the word of God, and so I say it is mistaken, wrong....
It is as it is, neither darkness or light
it is not light as it disagrees with God's word about resurrection , so it is darkness because it misleads folks about things very important, resurrection and translation ...
but stands as a mirror as do all scripture, and is several layers deep.
scripture is indeed many levels deep, but it does not mislead at any level, as this is shown by other scriptures to do ...
as for mirrors :-
A hall of mirrors set in time
aroused
the fire of earth
...insidious illusion so sublime
and we induced
its birth
doors open
doors close
so many wander
unopposed
a lifetime long and grey
in circles
thought
on riddles old...
some wander as they may
but others come in from the cold
a narrow way
till fateful day
of lust undone
by stories old
when all will come to
kiss the sun...
so death where is your sting
from wedding to our sin ?
... for open too to many who
the wider door
doth fling
but one so fair
on eagles wing
and wise
he flies
yet 'cross the skies
undoes
for few
their sure demise
What riddle this set true today:
Two ways to One
Two earths
three heavens
peace at Last...
as first we fast
as last be first
the first be last
and yet all thirst
this rest in peace
for love of love
all things above
love freely given
we receive
free give again
the joy of heaven
life bounteous then
to all in need,
through love
be life to which we're freed
so at the end we all will thrive
for everything
that now we give
... and tears now shed
will turn to blood
yet God
will call them from the mud
first feel the fire
few
as they could
as know and do
that which is good
and so the saga wends its way
as all will live
and love
...one day
http://www.gspoetry.com/hall-of-mirr...ms-352781.html
Leonard Cohen - 'Avalanche'
Sparklehorse - 'Sad & Beautiful world'
[ an explanation of what my poem is about ... it is about the deep truths written in the bible explaining our past , present and future... the 'mirrors' are my attempt to convey that mankind's reflections of what we are, our common conceptions of being, are very clearly mistaken... we are spirit, made in God's image, not made in our own image of ourselves...
most folks trust religion , politics, institutions, industry , money and science to make our lives , but God shows us none of these are what we must ultimately do to come to realise what we are ... in fat all we have to do is to return to being the simple loving creatures God made us, so overcoming the illusion that we are what we see, what the world makes us into... the truth is written by God for us, it is not however repeated by religion... most folks never read the scripture in whole in order to find this out, so can wander a whole lifetime not knowing what we are , but still feeling the nothingness of what the world tries to tell us we are...
2 Corinthians 12:2 I knew a man in Christ
above fourteen years ago,
whether in the body, I cannot tell
or whether out of the body, I cannot tell
God knoweth
such an one caught up to the third heaven.
... how that he was caught up into paradise
and heard unspeakable words
which it is not lawful for a man to utter.
Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away
- my blog on some of the insights written in scripture that you will not find mentioned in religion... you will see why they are kept secret by religion explained in scripture also :-
http://www.christianforums.com/blogs/u15209/ |
12th May 2012, 04:33 PM
| | sin is diabolical abuse of fellow humans-1John 3:8
| | Join Date: 2nd November 2011 Location: UK
Posts: 2,378
Blessings: 121,192 My Mood
Reps: 57,012,134,242,023,256 (power: 57,012,134,242,027) | |
Originally Posted by Soulgazer We consider this writing sacred.
only the spirit can be sacred... so only the words of God and saints and prophets are even pointing at what is sacred ... thus the scripture of God is given to reprove and correct the words of men...
Mark 8:38 Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.
2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
There is nothing wrong with this scripture.
As I have shown it breaks many of the scriptures of saints and prophets and even those of Jesus ... it makes mistakes relative to the word of God, and so I say it is mistaken, wrong....
It is as it is, neither darkness or light
it is not light as it disagrees with God's word about resurrection , so it is darkness because it misleads folks about things very important, resurrection and translation ...
but stands as a mirror as do all scripture, and is several layers deep.
scripture is indeed many levels deep, but it does not mislead at any level, as this is shown by other scriptures to do ...
as for mirrors :-
A hall of mirrors set in time
aroused
the fire of earth
...insidious illusion so sublime
and we induced
its birth
doors open
doors close
so many wander
unopposed
a lifetime long and grey
in circles
thought
on riddles old...
some wander as they may
but others come in from the cold
a narrow way
till fateful day
of lust undone
by stories old
when all will come to
kiss the sun...
so death where is your sting
from wedding to our sin ?
... for open too to many who
the wider door
doth fling
but one so fair
on eagles wing
and wise
he flies
yet 'cross the skies
undoes
for few
their sure demise
What riddle this set true today:
Two ways to One
Two earths
three heavens
peace at Last...
as first we fast
as last be first
the first be last
and yet all thirst
this rest in peace
for love of love
all things above
love freely given
we receive
free give again
the joy of heaven
life bounteous then
to all in need,
through love
be life to which we're freed
so at the end we all will thrive
for everything
that now we give
... and tears now shed
will turn to blood
yet God
will call them from the mud
first feel the fire
few
as they could
as know and do
that which is good
and so the saga wends its way
as all will live
and love
...one day
Poem: Hall of mirrors ...- by stranger- GS Poetry
[ an explanation of what the poem is about ... it is about the deep truths written in the bible explaining our past , present and future... the 'mirrors' are my attempt to convey that mankind's reflections of what we are, our common conceptions of being, are very clearly mistaken... we are spirit, made in God's image, not made in our own image of ourselves...
most folks trust religion , politics, institutions, industry , money and science to make our lives , but God shows us none of these are what we must ultimately do to come to realise what we are ... in fat all we have to do is to return to being the simple loving creatures God made us, so overcoming the illusion that we are what we see, what the world makes us into... the truth is written by God for us, it is not however repeated by religion... most folks never read the scripture in whole in order to find this out, so can wander a whole lifetime not knowing what we are , but still feeling the nothingness of what the world tries to tell us we are...
2 Corinthians 12:2 I knew a man in Christ
above fourteen years ago,
whether in the body, I cannot tell
or whether out of the body, I cannot tell
God knoweth
such an one caught up to the third heaven.
... how that he was caught up into paradise
and heard unspeakable words
which it is not lawful for a man to utter.
Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away
- blog on some of the insights written in scripture that you will not find mentioned in religion... you will see why they are kept secret by religion explained in scripture also :-
http://www.christianforums.com/blogs/u15209/
some music for meditation? :-
Leonard Cohen - 'Avalanche'
Sparklehorse - 'Sad & Beautiful world'
|
12th May 2012, 04:34 PM
| | Christian Gnostic
| | Join Date: 24th February 2011
Posts: 3,603
Blessings: 21,167,140 My Mood
Reps: 267,307,473,600,564,704 (power: 267,307,473,600,570) | | Originally Posted by strangertoo only the spirit can be sacred... so only the words of God and saints and prophets are even pointing at what is sacred ... thus the scripture of God is given to reprove and correct the words of men...
You apparently don't understand them. It's ok; you are either called to it or not. It doesn't make you any less.
__________________
Pastor Alpha& Omega Christian Gnostic Church(retired)
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Gnosis(direct experiential knowledge of God) It's not an "oh cool I'm a god" type thing. It's a calling up everybody you have ever known since childhood and apologizing for being a JERK type thing.~ Bro. Spark
Find Sophia's match for you at Gnosticmingle.com<-Not a real link "Duh"
|
12th May 2012, 04:55 PM
|  | Senior Member
66 
| | Join Date: 4th March 2004 Location: Texas
Posts: 4,171
Blessings: 77,442
Reps: 261,255,002,904,894,720 (power: 261,255,002,904,908) | | Originally Posted by strangertoo Hitler was just one puppet of the Antichrist , even though paradoxically he was a Jew like the Antichrist has to be to pretend to be Christ...
but Hitler never sad he was God or Christ... and again , ironically, he was no 'Aryan' for all hhis tak about the master race , he was nnnot one of them himself, to his own knowledge too ... he tried rather brutally to suppress his lineage and was even blckmailed over it by some who knew...
'antichristos' in Greek = one in place of Christ ...
Hitler never assumed that role ,
popes do
Vicarius Filii dei = in place of the Son of God and sums to 666 in Latin numerals
Revelation 13:3 ... all the world wondered after the beast.
4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
...
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
so much for mass religion of sinners led astray by sinners in rich robes and frocks as the poor of the world starve to death daily [50, 000 deaths a day] ? :-
1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil;
for the devil sinneth from the beginning.
For this purpose the Son of God was manifested,
that he might destroy the works of the devil.
sinners CANNOT know God until they turn from sin to Love :-
1 John 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
1 John 4:16 ...and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God,
and God in him.
sin is breaking God's Law of Love, Love is keeping it...
a lord is someone one OBEYS
Jesus is not lord of sinners then, Satan is ....
so who does Jesus say the worldwide religion of sinners will worship when it finally unites - Rev 13:3-4 above ... read it and weep for the delusion of mankind... but it wasn't Hitler did so , read about him, just a puppet ... and in the end a fall guy ...
Hitler killed a lot of Christians and Jews (God's two witnesses) just as prophesied.
__________________
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
"The proof of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy" Revelation 19:10 |
12th May 2012, 04:57 PM
| | Christian Gnostic
| | Join Date: 24th February 2011
Posts: 3,603
Blessings: 21,167,140 My Mood
Reps: 267,307,473,600,564,704 (power: 267,307,473,600,570) | | Originally Posted by interpreter Hitler killed a lot of Christians and Jews (God's two witnesses) just as prophesied.
The Jews are also antichrist.
__________________
Pastor Alpha& Omega Christian Gnostic Church(retired)
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Gnosis(direct experiential knowledge of God) It's not an "oh cool I'm a god" type thing. It's a calling up everybody you have ever known since childhood and apologizing for being a JERK type thing.~ Bro. Spark
Find Sophia's match for you at Gnosticmingle.com<-Not a real link "Duh"
| | |
| Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes |  Linear Mode |
| | |
