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13th May 2012, 01:36 AM
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13th May 2012, 10:30 AM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | | No need to argue about kinds of fat. The bottom line is that Americans eat too much and move too little. Our sedentary lifestyle is a great deal of the problem. |
13th May 2012, 12:36 PM
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Reps: 22,594,144,041,048,436 (power: 22,594,144,041,050) | | Originally Posted by stellalunaCW  No need to argue about kinds of fat. The bottom line is that Americans eat too much and move too little. Our sedentary lifestyle is a great deal of the problem.
Very true. I shouldn't be too picayune. Eat a little less, get out a little more. Weight loss and improved health will follow. |
14th September 2012, 09:13 PM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by DaisyDay The government's recommendations include eating more lentils, whole grains, fresh fruits and vegetables and to limit sugar, alcohol and fat, especially polyunsaturated fat. You really think that that is causing obesity?
I don't mean to nitpick, but there is an issue that I have with part of your post. Fat, just like protein and carbohydrate, is a macronutrient, or main essential nutrient source that the body needs to survive. In fact, consuming enough healthy fats are a good way to lose fat, believe it or not.
Generally speaking, monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fats are the good fats to consume. Saturated fats should be consumed sparingly, and there is no recommended daily intake for trans fats.
Processed sugar is unhealthy, while natural sugar from, say fruits, isn't. And alcohol certainly isn't needed. In fact, the liver treats it as a toxin, which is why so many alcoholics end up with bad livers. It seems that the antioxidants in red wine are healthy though.
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15th September 2012, 01:52 PM
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Reps: 2,692,807,723,781,038 (power: 2,692,807,723,787) | | Originally Posted by stellalunaCW No need to argue about kinds of fat. The bottom line is that Americans eat too much and move too little. Our sedentary lifestyle is a great deal of the problem.
I agree (and Brits are not far behind).
I do believe a lot of people seem to have no idea about what is healthy. So many times I have overheard people say they will have a salad because it has the lowest calories yet you look at some of the ingredients its far from the low calorie meal they think they are eating.
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15th September 2012, 07:08 PM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by stellalunaCW No need to argue about kinds of fat. The bottom line is that Americans eat too much and move too little. Our sedentary lifestyle is a great deal of the problem.
Sorry, like I said I was nit picking. The health issue could really be explained through eating, sleeping and exercising (or lack thereof). And honestly, I don't think it's the amount of food that we eat that is necessarily the issue, it's the types of food we eat.
If one eats whole grains, fruits, vegetables and so on all day, they probably won't get fat because these health foods are generally lower in calories and are filling. The unhealthy foods are high in calories and are not very filling because they lack nutrients the body needs. So even after eating X unhealthy food, the body says "I need more nutrients!" and so one feels compelled to eat more.
So I would say, more specifically, the main issue for many people is lack of exercise and a poor diet. Eating all day=/=obesity. Eating a diet mainly consisting of unhealthy food=obesity.  |
16th September 2012, 11:43 AM
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Reps: 522,844,259,539,301,504 (power: 522,844,259,539,326) | | Originally Posted by DaveR I don't mean to nitpick, but there is an issue that I have with part of your post. Fat, just like protein and carbohydrate, is a macronutrient, or main essential nutrient source that the body needs to survive. In fact, consuming enough healthy fats are a good way to lose fat, believe it or not.
I certainly did NOT say that the government's recommendation was to cut out all fat - it is to keep the daily total between 20% to 35% total calories. I think your nitpick is a misunderstanding unless you think that more than a third of your diet should be fats.
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If such people were amenable to facts, they would have gotten the point long ago...Whatever it is that is blocking the understanding of the "denialist", it is not access to facts or information. The blockage is most likely emotional, possibly based on fear, and one does not most effectively deal with emotional barriers by using facts as instruments of assault and battery. - Dan Murphy
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16th September 2012, 11:55 AM
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Reps: 522,844,259,539,301,504 (power: 522,844,259,539,326) | | Originally Posted by Orange_County_Chopper Its the high fructose corn syrup, and aversion to exercise, and portions.
That's certainly a good part of it - but there may be more.
Besides us, it is also wild rats, captive monkeys, captive chimpanzees and family pets that have increased in average girth. We are a rotund nation - and not just people. Canaries in the coal mine: a cross-species analysis of the plurality of obesity epidemics
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If such people were amenable to facts, they would have gotten the point long ago...Whatever it is that is blocking the understanding of the "denialist", it is not access to facts or information. The blockage is most likely emotional, possibly based on fear, and one does not most effectively deal with emotional barriers by using facts as instruments of assault and battery. - Dan Murphy
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26th September 2012, 08:41 PM
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The current standard that the CDC uses is pretty lame. According to them, a person who's 6 foot 2, 235 pounds is "obese".
CDC BMI Classification
< 18.5
underweight
18.5–24.9
normal weight
25.0–29.9
overweight
30.0–34.9
class I obesity
35.0–39.9
class II obesity
≥ 40.0
class III obesity Calculate Your BMI - Standard BMI Calculator
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