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30th April 2012, 04:30 PM
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30th April 2012, 06:09 PM
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Reps: 40,495,568,166,298,936 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by DaisyDay  Since organic milk usually means milk without antibiotics or hormones - that is probably healthier.
You know, I didn't think this topic through. Almost every post has countered my OP successfully. I think I was relying on some of the tin-foilers joining in. Did someone tip them off?
Why am I getting so pummeled by people who use facts as a crutch. How about someone spouting off something bizarre that can't possibly be true of organics? |
30th April 2012, 07:38 PM
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Reps: 11,152,149,533,469,856 (power: 11,152,149,533,471) | | Originally Posted by MattRose You know, I didn't think this topic through. Almost every post has countered my OP successfully. I think I was relying on some of the tin-foilers joining in. Did someone tip them off?
Why am I getting so pummeled by people who use facts as a crutch. How about someone spouting off something bizarre that can't possibly be true of organics?
Here, i'll join in just to make you happy!! 
But Megan Kintzer, director of development at the Rodale Institute, an organic farm and research center in Pennsylvania, says that organic farming is a more sustainable system.
"There is less energy use from organic farming, and the conventional systems produce 40% more greenhouse gases," Kintzer said.
There is organic, conventional or non-organic, and there is genetically modified foods. The Threats From Genetically Modified Foods - Sustainable Farming - MOTHER EARTH NEWS
As for the bizzare and untrue of organics? You got me  . But my hat was raised a farmer. Now if you wanna talk 9/11.   |
1st May 2012, 08:25 AM
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1st May 2012, 10:24 AM
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Reps: 40,495,568,166,298,936 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by farmer joe Here, i'll join in just to make you happy!!
But Megan Kintzer, director of development at the Rodale Institute, an organic farm and research center in Pennsylvania, says that organic farming is a more sustainable system.
"There is less energy use from organic farming, and the conventional systems produce 40% more greenhouse gases," Kintzer said.
There is organic, conventional or non-organic, and there is genetically modified foods. The Threats From Genetically Modified Foods - Sustainable Farming - MOTHER EARTH NEWS
If you use the phrase 'more sustainable system' then I can see that as accurate. But as far as making me happy, you're too late. I've lost. I still won't buy it though for completely nonsensical reasons. Everyone over 50 should get one free ride to be prejuidiced against something. That's at least a partial victory for me no matter how hollow. Plus my reasoning comes with a free tin-foil hat. |
1st May 2012, 03:21 PM
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Reps: 184,755,664,281,318,720 (power: 184,755,664,281,333) | | Originally Posted by MattRose You know, I didn't think this topic through. Almost every post has countered my OP successfully. I think I was relying on some of the tin-foilers joining in. Did someone tip them off?
Why am I getting so pummeled by people who use facts as a crutch. How about someone spouting off something bizarre that can't possibly be true of organics?
That's what you get for overstating your case.
Might have been different if you said they are not worth the additional cost.
When I was in my teens I did a lot of gardening. A lot. I mixed my own fertalizer. A combination of horse manure that had been soaked in water and then dried out (so it would serve as the bulk), cottonseed meal, bone meal. BUT I could not find anything that provided significant amounts of Potassium except sulfate of potash.
Oops, a chemical. So what I grew was not 'Organic'. Use any pesticides and 'not Organic'. No matter what you do for the first 2 years 'not organic'.
What I grew was at least the match of any organic products that yuo would find in a grocery. (I've seen better than mine for some thigns at Farmers Markets).
You could have won with calling Organic overrated. |
2nd May 2012, 10:42 AM
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