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21st June 2012, 08:47 AM
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25th June 2012, 05:29 AM
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Reps: 134,050,997,230,042 (power: 134,050,997,238) | | Originally Posted by agapedragon There is a major problem in America of children not being disciplined, of them running wild and behaving like spoiled rotten brats. This seems to happen especially in Wal-mart stores.
I was in Wal-mart yesterday and before i was in the check out aisle I heard a little girl screaming the next aisle over. Then, whenever i was in the check out lane, the lady behind me had this bratty little baby/toddler that screamed so loud he startled both me and my mother, nearly gave my poor mother a heart attack, made her jump. Then, this kid, about 1 or 2 years old, started putting his dirty hands all over our stuff on the check out counter, the stuff we were buying. he touched my back, now when they start touching you it gets bad. But what can you say without making yourself look like the bad guy? he drooled and got the book we were buying dirty, mother made no apologizes, she said to the little boy, "when are you going to behave yourself?" well, it will be when you teach him to, lady, how do you expect your kid to know how to behave in society if you never teach them? CHildren are born bad, knowing how to misbehave and throw tantrums, scream, cry, kick, hit , punch bite, scratch, pinch break things, and behave terribly, they need to be taught how to behave decently in society, that's called discpline.
The cashier reinfocred the toddler's bad behavior, she said, "oh, he's cute." No, bad behavior is not cute. Babies that misbehave are not cute. I'm not sure how old he was, looked about 2 years old, he was at least over 1 year old, old enough to start learning how to behave, it should start right away, teaching kids to behave good and have some manners.
So, my mom and I couldn't say anything to the woman and her child, but next time somthing like this happens, I will say something, I will defend myself and my rights. I will say something like, "your child is misbehaving," or "you need to teach your child to behave," or "tell your kid to stop screaming," whatever, something like that, beacuse i am really sick of having to put up with screaming misbeahving children in public.
Reading what Agape says, I have to agree with her here. Nobody blames a one or two year old for misbehaving in public. The child was screaming, had dirty hands, and was drooling. He touched a book and got dirt on it as it was being bought. This is bad behaviour; a child that young can't be expected to know that it is bad behaviour, but the parents should be managing him until he does know.
When that happens, I think Agape is quite right - the parents should have pulled the child back so that he wasn't touching things. If I were you, I'd be angry too. Saying "Aaaw, isn't that cute?" or "When will you learn to behave?" is bad parenting, and is giving other people trouble as well as setting yourself up for trouble later in life.
If that happened to me I hope I would say something like that, politely, to the parent. Maybe, "Please control your child and don't let him touch my property without asking."
By the way, I'm a teacher, and will be a parent in a few months.
Well, just wanted to say: quite right, Agape. What a rude parent. | 
25th June 2012, 09:10 AM
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And I agree. I hear that a lot in my family "when will you learn?" I always want to say "When you teach them." lol
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26th June 2012, 01:49 AM
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Reps: 72,763,322,741,604,080 (power: 72,763,322,741,618) | | | In my experience, kids can be guided by strangers. I've had to redirect kids I didn't know. A kind reprimand and redirect can come from ANY adult. There are DEFINITELY parents out there who push boundaries with what they let their kids allow and some people don't have big problems with it.
If you have a problem with it (as I did), there's no reason why you couldn't teach them a quick lesson with words and tone.
Everyone likes the idea of "it takes a village to raise a child" but it appears that not everyone wants to contribute to that rearing. Can't say with certainty why that is, but it does seem like there is so much fear around it.
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