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15th April 2012, 10:48 AM
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If the lesbian wants to play with dolls, than she should get a doll. She should be thinking of whats best for the child, not herself.
Oh wow... you obviously have NOT been around any children of gay parents! LOL. they give their girls dolls and boys play with trucks. LOL... wow. You really think gay parents are raising the kids to be gay too? Oh my gosh- ya'll need to get out more... I mean really.
I recommend everyone get out and meet some gay and lesbian folks because the stereotype is wrong and crazy.
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Homoseuxal couples, by being couples, are consantly in a state of mortal sin and persistantly unrepentant of their sin. They wantonly wallow in evil and rejoice in it.
No Catholic agency could ever place a child in that situation.
If you think their situation offers "love" then you have a warped view of what love is. Love is not exposing a child to a continoous ongoing abomination unto the Lord and then raising that child to think it is okay. In essence, the adoption agency would be complicit in warping that child's mind beyond repair.
a quick question... are u a sock of somebody we all know?
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20th July 2012, 08:49 AM
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Basically, I mean that I don't see how adoption can ever be a sin. These children need people who love them; are they really getting the best by staying in orphanages?
I would ask how it differs from letting a single, heterosexual person adopt a child - but I'm not sure if Catholic adoption agencies allow that either. 
This is the Catholic definition of love - to guide all souls to Heaven via the Lord's teachings.
We do not condone immoral and sinful lifestyles no matter what the secular world tries to force on us.
We are to instruct and counsel sinners and the ignorant [those who dont have the knowledge] and we do this because we love them.
Giving children to homosexuals to raise - is by definition condoning their lifestyle choice...and actively helping them engage in said activities.
NOW - if a single celibate SSA person wants to adopt - they need not list their sexual preferences - so long as they are celibate [for moral reasons] and would not be going to actively involve teaching the children that lifestyle is acceptable.
That takes a certain type of person - although SSA - refuses to call themselves by a sexual preference and rather a child of God. Some folks do fit that category - but so few do.
It seems that those with SSA - want to hit the drum for others to be active - and so the former group of celibates is a rather small number overall.
For someone to be seeking the road of holiness and celibacy for God - they have to be of the mind - they are called to Sainthood rather than worry what sex preference they have. Since sex is the opposite of celibacy to begin with.
The Church is not in the habit of condoning that lifestyle and so it is careful not put children in that sort of situation - because it is also a sin of scandal to do so.
And we all know - or should know - how the Lord detests scandalizing an innocent child.
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most gay parents i know are just like straight parents, they love their children unconditionally and would never do anything to harm they emotionally or otherwise.
in fact, many of them would not choose homosexuality for their children as they themselves understand the discriminations that comes with it. and they dont want that for their children.
i mean, yes, if their kids does turn out to be gay, then they would accept it but...
The OP is directed to why the CATHOLIC Church does not do these things.
The answer is as i listed just previously.
Anything else is an opinion from someone who is not Catholic. And our teachings are NOT debatable - unlike other sects.
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I recommend everyone get out and meet some gay and lesbian folks because the stereotype is wrong and crazy.
Bene--I was talking about having a baby so she could dress it up in finery--the same way children often dress up dogs. I wasn't talking about toys. (Or perhaps I was in a sense--the gay (acting out the disordered lifestyle) parents seem to want to treat the child as a toy to dress up and do with what they will.)
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And to infer it is not loving simply misunderstands what the term love is according to the Church. Love is helping ppl avoid sin - it does not and will not ever include condoning said sin and keeping silent on the subject when relating to the sinner.
Asking why the CC doesnt like it - has been answered. Opinions that vary or oppose are not in response to how the Church teaches.
Just saying.
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