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Originally Posted by SmellsLikeCurlyFries View Post
A 240 pound armed man needed to use his gun to defend himself from a skinny 17 year old unarmed kid?
So you got the 240 Pounds from the Police Report or the Media ???

Originally Posted by SmellsLikeCurlyFries View Post
1) I do not believe the Media. I take everything they say with less than a grain of salt.
2) Gang-related activities? Where did you get that he had "gang-related activities"?
Originally Posted by SmellsLikeCurlyFries View Post
Police reports and a bit of media information.
Because I Note the only Police report I'm finding (What you believe) Doesn't have a weight for Zimmerman.

http://media.trb.com/media/acrobat/2...7-29132322.pdf
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Originally Posted by KarateCowboy View Post
Why is this case even important? Recently, Chicago gangs shot about 50 random people in one weekend. Random. No reason. Just shooting. "Do not feed the trolls, or the racial arsonists".
This case is important because it will help to establish the line between self-defense and vigilantism.
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Originally Posted by pgp_protector View Post
So you got the 240 Pounds from the Police Report or the Media ???
Mostly gleaned from outside sources, and yes, the media.

I'll admit thought that I don't know how accurate it is, as I've yet to see Zimmerman stand on a scale.
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Originally Posted by SmellsLikeCurlyFries View Post
Mostly gleaned from outside sources, and yes, the media.

I'll admit thought that I don't know how accurate it is, as I've yet to see Zimmerman stand on a scale.
Originally Posted by SmellsLikeCurlyFries View Post
A 240 pound armed man needed to use his gun to defend himself from a skinny 17 year old unarmed kid?
And about Trayvon Being a "Skinny Kid" @ 160 Lbs @ 6 Foot Tall (From Police Report) ?
BMI: 21.70 (WHO BMI Index 18.50-24.99 Normal weight)
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Originally Posted by pgp_protector View Post
And about Trayvon Being a "Skinny Kid" @ 160 Lbs @ 6 Foot Tall (From Police Report) ?
BMI: 21.70 (WHO BMI Index 18.50-24.99 Normal weight)
I don't know about you, but I've never seen someone 6 feet tall and around 150 lbs that wasn't skinny.
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Originally Posted by SmellsLikeCurlyFries View Post
I don't know about you, but I've never seen someone 6 feet tall and around 150 lbs that wasn't skinny.
160 Lbs (From Report)
Google image of 160 Lbs 6 Foot returns images like this


(Hardly Skinny)
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Originally Posted by Btodd View Post
Having wounds is not evidence of having been attacked first. We've heard nothing about whether Martin had any wounds other than the gunshot wound to the chest, and it could be just as simple as Zimmerman confronting him, grabbing him by the arm, getting pounced on and ultimately killing the young man.

As I've repeatedly said, I simply want Zimmerman to stand trial. Nothing more, nothing less.


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It should be the court system that is deciding whether it was self-defense or murder, not the police department because that is a decision to be made by the judicial system.

Also, I would ask how it can be self-defense when Mr. Zimmerman was clearly told by the dispatcher to not follow Mr. Martin but to let the police handle it. Mr. Zimmerman decided to keep following him, totally ignoring the instructions he'd been given. Also, if anyone had a right to feel threatened, it was Mr. Martin who was being followed by an armed man he didn't know. I think if anyone was defending himself or "standing his ground", it was the man who was killed. By the way, it is Mr. Zimmerman who has the criminal record. What criminal record does Mr. Martin have? I've got to wonder why someone with a criminal record would be allowed to have a gun license. I don't think I'll ever live in Florida if they allow criminals to buy guns and get licenses to carry them.
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Originally Posted by pgp_protector View Post
160 Lbs (From Report)
Google image of 160 Lbs 6 Foot returns images like this
And Google images always shows accurate images...

Let me put it to you this way. I'm about 5'5" and 170 lbs, and you can tell because I have a fat stomach, rolls, a double chin, and a big butt.

I have a hard time believing that someone about seven inches taller than me and ten pounds lighter is not skinny.

Not that this weight argument means anything anyway...
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Originally Posted by SmellsLikeCurlyFries View Post
And Google images always shows accurate images...

Let me put it to you this way. I'm about 5'5" and 170 lbs, and you can tell because I have a fat stomach, rolls, a double chin, and a big butt.

I have a hard time believing that someone about seven inches taller than me and ten pounds lighter is not skinny.

Not that this weight argument means anything anyway...
If the weight argument doesn't mean anything, why did you use it?
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A 240 pound armed man needed to use his gun to defend himself from a skinny 17 year old unarmed kid?
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Originally Posted by pgp_protector View Post
If the weight argument doesn't mean anything, why did you use it?
I didn't use it. The weight argument is the argument over exactly how much each one weighed compared to height. What I was referring to is that Zimmerman was clearly bigger than Martin AND ARMED, while Martin was smaller (bulk wise) and unarmed.
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