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Old 31st March 2012, 09:37 AM
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Anyone have a specific instance in scripture where one of the apostles spoke to their "mountain" and moved it?
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Originally Posted by FoundInGrace View Post
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2 Corinthians 12:8-10

Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me. But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ’s power may rest on me. That is why, for Christ’s sake, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong.

Read these parts of the verse and meditate on them.

Christ power........may rest IN ME.

When one depends on Christ power and not their own sufficiency then they can be strong.

That is true with us to in our own weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties.

When we understand what Christ power is and how to use like Paul did we are also strong and overcome them as paul did.
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Originally Posted by Optimax View Post
Read these parts of the verse and meditate on them.

Christ power........may rest IN ME.

When one depends on Christ power and not their own sufficiency then they can be strong.

That is true with us to in our own weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties.

When we understand what Christ power is and how to use like Paul did we are also strong and overcome them as paul did.
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Old 31st March 2012, 03:51 PM
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OK, on me.
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Originally Posted by Optimax
What scripture do you base that "belief" on.

Nowhere in Scripture does God tell us to ask Him to remove things in our life that should not be there.

There is scripture where we are told to do it and how to do it.

His grace is more than sufficient. His grace given unto us to remove them with is the Name of Jesus and His Word.
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2 Corinthians 12:8-10

Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me. But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ’s power may rest on me. That is why, for Christ’s sake, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong.
But this is what Paul did, can you find a scripture where Jesus instructed His apostles to ask God to remove a mountain, (a problem)
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Originally Posted by Faulty View Post
Anyone have a specific instance in scripture where one of the apostles spoke to their "mountain" and moved it?

Paul used the law of faith(faith principle) that Jesus taught. He lived by it(by faith).

In this scripture he said he did.

2 Cor 4:13
We having the same spirit of faith, according as it is written, I believed, and therefore have I spoken; we also believe, and therefore speak; KJV
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I think there will be 'mountains' that we will be able to speak to and 'remove' from our lives with God's help, but there will also be mountains that we will need to climb to overcome. Both situations require faith and trust in God's faithfulness.
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Originally Posted by FoundInGrace View Post
I think there will be 'mountains' that we will be able to speak to and 'remove' from our lives with God's help, but there will also be mountains that we will need to climb to overcome. Both situations require faith and trust in God's faithfulness.

The difference in deciding to speak to a "mountain" or climb it is this.

We have scripture where Jesus instructed us to speak to the mountain. He also told us the procedure for speaking to it.

We have no scripture that instructs us to climb the mountain, much less a procedure for climbing it.
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Originally Posted by Optimax View Post
The difference in deciding to speak to a "mountain" or climb it is this.

We have scripture where Jesus instructed us to speak to the mountain. He also told us the procedure for speaking to it.

We have no scripture that instructs us to climb the mountain, much less a procedure for climbing it.
it still depends on how that passage of scripture is interpreted though.. as I mentioned earlier in the thread there are other interpretations out there for what Jesus may have been saying that are different from the way you are interpreting that scripture.

so if it is interpreted differently from your way of seeing it we actually dont have a scripture that instructs us to speak to the mountain.

as for procedure for climbing a mountain.. how about one step at a time
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