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21st March 2012, 09:39 AM
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21st March 2012, 10:06 AM
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Not really.....these problems tend to arise from within a certain group.
I think much of the world is quite civil...
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22nd March 2012, 08:49 AM
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__________________ It is necessary to help others. Not only in our daily prayers, but in our daily lives. If we find we cannot help others, the least we can do is to desist from harming them.
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22nd March 2012, 09:59 AM
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22nd March 2012, 01:13 PM
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Reps: 455,787,989,484,672,960 (power: 455,787,989,484,677) | | Not the same guy, but a symptom of the same issue Siddiqui was arrested by US troops in Afghanistan when he was trying to get back to Germany where he allegedly had been instructed to become part of a European network of al Qaeda that was supposed to secure financial support. Observers hope German trial of al Qaeda suspect will shed light on motives | Asia | DW.DE | 20.03.2012 Joachim Krause, head of the Kiel Institute for Security Policy (ISPK), believes the danger of Islamist terrorism in France is very high. The country is a target of al Qaeda in the Maghreb, and it is quite possible that the group is planning terror attacks in France, Krause told DW.
"There are connections, there are cells in France," he said. "And these are connections that the authorities are now going to investigate." Is Islamist 'lone wolf' behind France attacks? | Europe | DW.DE | 22.03.2012 Several people in some way connected to Merah have been detained and questioned by police, including both his sisters and brothers and his mother. A brother is believed to be a supporter of the Islamist extremist Salafist movement, and his mother has also long been under observation because of her apparent ties to radical Salafists, Interior Minister Guéant said. But he also emphasized his belief that the perpetrator had acted alone. Toulouse Siege Over: Minister Confirms Terror Suspect Merah Is Dead - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International The interior minister said that, during his last contact with police, Merah had indicated that he would not give up and that he would fire on police if attacked. Guéant also added that the RAID special police force had decided to attack on Thursday morning because it recognized the extreme threat Merah presented.
However, it could also be that the officials had simply lost patience. On Wednesday, Merah had stated several times he wanted to turn himself in -- but he ignored each deadline. Death with a Gun in His Hand: French Elite Police Kill Terror Suspect Merah - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International
see also The World from Berlin: Toulouse - Fallout 'Plays Into Sarkozy's Hands' - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International
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22nd March 2012, 03:19 PM
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This is just the mosque. About 130 miles from town is a medrassa-mosque(a religious school and a training ground). I have a friend that used to supply them with paintballs, live ammuntion and motorcycle supplies(parts) until he figured out what was going on. Maybe I can post the web-page for the medrassa later, have to find it. This medrassa is roughly 30 airmiles from the center of Los Alamos National Labs. Neat huh?
Here's the medrassa, found it. Dar Al Islam, Islamic Education Center, Muslim Resources & Retreats
They have 4 to 5 Sections of land on which they play "games". Guess what kind of games. Motorcycle trails all over the place.
America sleeps!
Yeshua IS LORD!!!!!!!!!!
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22nd March 2012, 03:26 PM
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So, he's 18 now living not too far from the school - I pray that he's matured and grown out of his hate, but I'm doubtful. Something had to have fed that.
What I don't understand is why such individuals are allowed to roam as they please, to travel as they please if they were already known to the authorities. You can track people's transactions, what they purchase, what is delivered to them. How did the French authorities miss so many weapons?
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22nd March 2012, 04:06 PM
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Reps: 455,787,989,484,672,960 (power: 455,787,989,484,677) | | It is likely he was being watched, but their hands were tied by red tape until he or his brother/mother made a move. I can't speak so much for France, but with the laws here for freedom of speech/religion, there is a lot of legal wrangling that has to be handled BEFORE arrests, so there is an airtight case and someone this violent cannot get back out, because the USA will only catch and release.
The big problem isn't Islam itself, but Salafi/Wahabbi Islam and other sects that are out for blood. (it's a long story that is difficult to get into online in forum format)
When you know these individuals are radicalized, you only have so many people on hand to overlook and make sure they don't do something stupid. When you tie in the Anarchists and also the far right groups (Like Marie Le Pen is involved with) - you have a LOT of trouble and anything that could set things off very quickly.
Here, we have these individuals plus the far, far right and the far far left... you never know what will tip off the far left (anarchists) and you do know what may tip off the far right. But, until you have enough to keep them in jail without bail (like the Saarland/Leipzig group) - you cannot do a whole lot. ... it is impossible for security agencies to keep a round-the-clock observation of these 250 people. “In this respect it is of course possible at any time that also in Germany a radicalized single perpetrator commits such actions like in Toulouse,” said Wendt. He called for politicians to make training in so-called “terror camps” a crime in Germany. The police union leader noted that the French police were able to quickly home in on the suspect because of internet research and called on the German government to quickly adopt legislation that would allow German authorities to store and retain internet data. “Hostility toward Jews is growing rapidly among Muslims living in Germany,” said Knobloch, the former head of the Central Council of Jews in Germany Germans warned of Toulouse-style terror - The Local
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23rd March 2012, 07:13 AM
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Reps: 1,380,341,926,770,793,984 (power: 1,380,341,926,770,814) | | Originally Posted by MessianicMommy It is likely he was being watched, but their hands were tied by red tape until he or his brother/mother made a move. I can't speak so much for France, but with the laws here for freedom of speech/religion, there is a lot of legal wrangling that has to be handled BEFORE arrests, so there is an airtight case and someone this violent cannot get back out, because the USA will only catch and release.
The big problem isn't Islam itself, but Salafi/Wahabbi Islam and other sects that are out for blood. (it's a long story that is difficult to get into online in forum format)
When you know these individuals are radicalized, you only have so many people on hand to overlook and make sure they don't do something stupid. When you tie in the Anarchists and also the far right groups (Like Marie Le Pen is involved with) - you have a LOT of trouble and anything that could set things off very quickly.
Here, we have these individuals plus the far, far right and the far far left... you never know what will tip off the far left (anarchists) and you do know what may tip off the far right. But, until you have enough to keep them in jail without bail (like the Saarland/Leipzig group) - you cannot do a whole lot. Germans warned of Toulouse-style terror - The Local
Alas this is so very true.
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23rd March 2012, 07:22 AM
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Reps: 980,178,585,554,222,336 (power: 980,178,585,554,226) | | Originally Posted by MessianicMommy It is likely he was being watched, but their hands were tied by red tape until he or his brother/mother made a move. I can't speak so much for France, but with the laws here for freedom of speech/religion, there is a lot of legal wrangling that has to be handled BEFORE arrests, so there is an airtight case and someone this violent cannot get back out, because the USA will only catch and release.
The big problem isn't Islam itself, but Salafi/Wahabbi Islam and other sects that are out for blood. (it's a long story that is difficult to get into online in forum format)
When you know these individuals are radicalized, you only have so many people on hand to overlook and make sure they don't do something stupid. When you tie in the Anarchists and also the far right groups (Like Marie Le Pen is involved with) - you have a LOT of trouble and anything that could set things off very quickly.
Here, we have these individuals plus the far, far right and the far far left... you never know what will tip off the far left (anarchists) and you do know what may tip off the far right. But, until you have enough to keep them in jail without bail (like the Saarland/Leipzig group) - you cannot do a whole lot. 
And, of course, if you go far enough to the left you emerge at the lower edge of the far right! |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | | | |