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Old 12th March 2012, 09:46 AM
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The brouhaha over the HHS mandate points out, more than anything, how much better off we would have been with a government-run, national healthcare system. Are people wringing their hands and beating their breasts about these things in Canada and Europe? No, they have the time and energy to deal with the other serious problems our world governments and economies need to be concerned about.

Of course, I have seen some Catholics, like a columnist I formerly respected, Mary Beth Bonacci, call for an end to health care entirely.

That's like amputating a leg to cure a hammertoe.
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Old 12th March 2012, 09:53 AM
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One of President Obama's top aides, David Axelrod, declared: “the era of cheap gasoline is over.” Under President Obama, gas prices have increased about $2.00 per gallon on average.


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Old 12th March 2012, 10:02 AM
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Freedom FROM RELIGION? Aw man! That has to take away the morality of the people! How anti-Christian is this!
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Old 12th March 2012, 02:22 PM
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Freedom from religion isn't much of a freedom at all is it??
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Old 12th March 2012, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Fantine View Post
The brouhaha over the HHS mandate points out, more than anything, how much better off we would have been with a government-run, national healthcare system. Are people wringing their hands and beating their breasts about these things in Canada and Europe? No, they have the time and energy to deal with the other serious problems our world governments and economies need to be concerned about.
Haven't you heard? We're all in mortal sin for living in such evil, degenerate countries.
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Old 12th March 2012, 08:23 PM
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Its against Our Constitution so it doesnt matter what other countries do.
Its not our thing...and we like our freedoms the way they are meant to be.

Why does every other person in another country think we are wrong for having our own way of life?

You like your way - good, happy for you. That does not mean Americans want it.
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7 "Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who asks, receives; and the one who seeks, finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened."

One of President Obama's top aides, David Axelrod, declared: “the era of cheap gasoline is over.” Under President Obama, gas prices have increased about $2.00 per gallon on average.


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Old 12th March 2012, 08:42 PM
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I thought fantine was American.
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Old 12th March 2012, 09:10 PM
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I suspect Fantine grew up in the 60's in college and has not left that era. Its just suspect. And that era was wrong for our country and Obama is wrong too.

Just because we have socialist sympathizers - is no way agreed upon by folks who love how our Constitution kept us free so far.

Who did the world look at as the most wealthy and powerful? America. Why? Because we are - were - free to be so.
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7 "Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who asks, receives; and the one who seeks, finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened."

One of President Obama's top aides, David Axelrod, declared: “the era of cheap gasoline is over.” Under President Obama, gas prices have increased about $2.00 per gallon on average.


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Old 12th March 2012, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by WarriorAngel View Post
I suspect Fantine grew up in the 60's in college and has not left that era. Its just suspect. And that era was wrong for our country and Obama is wrong too.

Just because we have socialist sympathizers - is no way agreed upon by folks who love how our Constitution kept us free so far.

Who did the world look at as the most wealthy and powerful? America. Why? Because we are - were - free to be so.
There were enough Americans in favour of Obama and his policies for him to get into power. I don't know what Americans want, so I can't really comment.

Does America being wealthy and powerful really have all that much to do with freedom? Britain was the most wealthy and powerful for a long time, I don't think freedom was at play there. Likewise, Spain was hugely powerful for a long time and freedom really didn't come into play there.

Back on topic, fantine points out that Catholics are more free to practice our beliefs about contraception under a more universal scheme than the one currently being put forward in America.

Don't take me too seriously though I'm not in America and I haven't really followed along with this mandate.
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Notre Dame professor declares in The New York TImes: “The immorality of birth control is no longer a teaching of the Catholic Church.”
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