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View Poll Results: Is male masturbation worse than female masturbation, or vice versa? | |
Female masturbation is worse.
|    | 5 | 7.46% | |
Male masturbation is worse.
|    | 3 | 4.48% | |
I'm not sure.
|    | 12 | 17.91% | |
They're both equally bad.
|    | 47 | 70.15% |  | | 
30th March 2012, 01:28 AM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by sorednax Hasn't the Catholic Church been rocked with scandal regarding an alarming amount of Priests and young boys?
Don't you think there is some direct correlation between suppressing sexuality and deviant behavior?
Judith K. Balswick and Jack O. Balswick write in their book Authentic Human Sexuality: An Integrated Christian Approach: - Masturbation can be a healthy, enjoyable way for a person without a sexual partner to experience sexual gratification. Since God has created humans as sexual beings, masturbation provides a way for individuals to experience their sexuality and meet their sexual needs.
i think we can agree that masturbation is better than raping children, but when you think about it, im sure if they were to rape children, then previously they probably masturbated? | 
30th March 2012, 01:40 AM
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Reps: 200,104,056,673,307,968 (power: 200,104,056,673,310) | | | Masturbation is aided by erotic visuals; pornography. It shouldn't matter whether that comes through the medium of internet, DVD's, magazines, books, etc. It's sinful by nature.
That said. . . if you become involuntarily aroused (such as a woman in a mini-skirt walking by), and those chemical reactions in the brain threaten to make you sin voluntarily at a later point. . . you need a way to release that.
"Pluck out your eye", so to speak. | 
31st March 2012, 03:57 PM
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Reps: 24,938,153,593,499,036 (power: 24,938,153,593,507) | | Originally Posted by WinBySurrender In this poll, self-delusion is not an option.
Really, isn't that what all the options up there are?
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5th April 2012, 12:04 PM
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Reps: 9,383,847,306,831,126 (power: 9,383,847,306,833) | | | lets get really simple here for a minute. Can you tell me if Jesus masturbated? Can you prove that he didn't? Does it say that it is a sin? Forget about if you think it is wrong for a minute and read your Bible. There even is good lust in the bible like lust for you wife or a lust to obey God. Love him with all your heart and he will show you the truth. If it isn't doing harm to you or anyone around you and it isn't in Gods Holy book then maybe he doesn't want you to beat yourself up over it. | 
5th April 2012, 02:23 PM
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Reps: 855,815,737,391,313,408 (power: 855,815,737,391,326) | | Originally Posted by walk the talk lets get really simple here for a minute. Can you tell me if Jesus masturbated? Can you prove that he didn't? Does it say that it is a sin? Forget about if you think it is wrong for a minute and read your Bible. There even is good lust in the bible like lust for you wife or a lust to obey God. Love him with all your heart and he will show you the truth. If it isn't doing harm to you or anyone around you and it isn't in Gods Holy book then maybe he doesn't want you to beat yourself up over it.
The point is that it does do harm because it is intrinsically selfish, self-centered and lustful toward the flesh, not God.
Selfishness is not God.
Pro 11:6 The righteousness of the upright delivers them, but the treacherous are taken captive by their lust.
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5th April 2012, 04:14 PM
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Reps: 9,383,847,306,831,126 (power: 9,383,847,306,833) | | Originally Posted by Kristos The point is that it does do harm because it is intrinsically selfish, self-centered and lustful toward the flesh, not God.
Selfishness is not God.
Pro 11:6 The righteousness of the upright delivers them, but the treacherous are taken captive by their lust.
where do you get that from? Well OK you have some truth to that if that is your motives.
Then, yes, don't do that, consider it sexual exercise for your health and your wife will love you for it when she sees how much better you are. | 
5th April 2012, 04:14 PM
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Reps: 9,792,731,334,255,692 (power: 9,792,731,334,257) | | | Masturbation is no more selfish than eating a meal by yourself, taking a hot shower, or getting a good night's rest. Most everything you do or I so is because it pleases ourselves. Yes, we may do things to please our mate or our parents or children, but we do it because it pleases us to please them. There is no sin in loving yourself or your body; its scriptural (Matt.22:39; Eph.5:28) You need to distinguish between good lust and evil lust. There is a difference. The word itself (epithumia) doesn't refer to wrong desire or sex. | 
5th April 2012, 04:22 PM
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Reps: 9,383,847,306,831,126 (power: 9,383,847,306,833) | | Originally Posted by walk the talk where do you get that from? Well OK you have some truth to that if that is your motives.
Then, yes, don't do that, consider it sexual exercise for your health and your wife will love you for it when she sees how much better you are.
I also think that some people only think of how it can be wrong and not how it can be good for you. Some people only think of how eating is bad for you and forget about how good it is. How good it tastes, how your body craves meat or veggies or desert or whatever and then they get sick. Some people even think that way to there death. But thank God there is a good side as well.
I think that everything can be bad if abused as masturbation, but done in moderation can be like your favorite meal, refreshing at times. It is good for you because it exercises the muscles that are only used for sex and gets you fit and able to enjoy intimacy with your wife even more. Now is that selfish? | 
5th April 2012, 04:39 PM
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Reps: 9,383,847,306,831,126 (power: 9,383,847,306,833) | | | They should create a new term, (sexual anorexic) I am afraid that many Christian people are forced into this behavior by there beliefs and ignorance of what the Bible really says or doesn't say and then they have the tendency to fall into many sexual sins because of it. | 
5th April 2012, 06:16 PM
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Reps: 9,383,847,306,831,126 (power: 9,383,847,306,833) | | Originally Posted by sniperelite7 Where is the option for "None of them are bad".
Wasting seed is an archaic phrase best left somewhere in the past. If a male doesn't ejaculate, the sperm are just recycled into the body. Or are we going to start charging women on their period with murder now?
The sixth commandment? Thou Shalt not commit adultery? How the devil is that related to masturbation? Your not sleeping with anyone else, heck if you're whacking the totem pole the odds are good that you aren't married or your significant other is somewhere else.
Or does the hand count as an individual now?
Honestly, I need to be enlightened here as to how masturbation is a sin.
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