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Due to the King of France (Philip IV) taxing the clergy of the Church to help finance his wars, Boniface VIII released one of the most important papal bulls of Catholic History: Unam Sanctum. It declared that both spiritual and temporal power were under the pope’s jurisdiction, and that kings were subordinate to the power of the Church.
“Now, therefore, we declare, say, determine and pronounce that for every human creature it is necessary for salvation to be subject to the authority of the Roman pontiff” (Porro subesse Romano Pontifici omni humanae creaturae declaramus, dicimus, definimus, et pronuntiamus omnino esse de necessitate salutis).
This is considered to be an infallible declaration of the Catholic Church. Philip retaliated against the bull by denying the exportation of money from France to Rome, funds that the Church required to operate. Boniface had no choice but to quickly meet the demands of Philip by allowing taxation only “during an emergency.” Philip’s chief minister declared that Boniface was a heretic, and in return, Boniface excommunicated the King. On September 7, 1303 an army led by Nogaret and Sciarra Colonna of the Colonna family surprised Boniface at his retreat in Anagni. The King and the Colonnas demanded that he resign, to which Boniface VIII responded that he would ‘sooner die’. Boniface was beaten badly and nearly executed but was released from captivity after three days. He died a month later, on October 11, 1303.
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To bible2 there are 6 many ways Maitreya adds up to 666 in hebrew, MUM 40, ALEPH 1, TAV 400, RUSH 200, YOD 10, YOD 10, HEI 5 666, MUM 40, YOD 10, TAV 400, RUSH 200, ALEPH 1, YOD 10, HEI 5 666,, MUM 40, ALEPH 1, YOD 10, TAV 400, RUSH 200, YOD 10, HEI 5 666,, MUM 40, YOD 10, TAV 400, RUSH 200, YOD 10, ALEPH 1, HEI 5 666,, MUM 40, YOD 10, TAV 400, RUSH 200, YOD 10, HEI 5, ALEPH 1 666,, MUM 40, ALEPH 1, TET 9, TAV 400, RUSH 200, YOD 10, HEI 5, ALEPH 1 666,
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From Top 10 Most Wicked Popes

Due to the King of France (Philip IV) taxing the clergy of the Church to help finance his wars, Boniface VIII released one of the most important papal bulls of Catholic History: Unam Sanctum. It declared that both spiritual and temporal power were under the pope's jurisdiction, and that kings were subordinate to the power of the Church.
"Now, therefore, we declare, say, determine and pronounce that for every human creature it is necessary for salvation to be subject to the authority of the Roman pontiff" (Porro subesse Romano Pontifici omni humanae creaturae declaramus, dicimus, definimus, et pronuntiamus omnino esse de necessitate salutis).
This is considered to be an infallible declaration of the Catholic Church. Philip retaliated against the bull by denying the exportation of money from France to Rome, funds that the Church required to operate. Boniface had no choice but to quickly meet the demands of Philip by allowing taxation only "during an emergency." Philip's chief minister declared that Boniface was a heretic, and in return, Boniface excommunicated the King. On September 7, 1303 an army led by Nogaret and Sciarra Colonna of the Colonna family surprised Boniface at his retreat in Anagni. The King and the Colonnas demanded that he resign, to which Boniface VIII responded that he would 'sooner die'. Boniface was beaten badly and nearly executed but was released from captivity after three days. He died a month later, on October 11, 1303.
Good catch Dougg. What do you think? Is Rome the mother of harlots in Rev. 17-18? Is the executive role of the pope the mouth of the first Roman beast in Rev. 13?
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Good catch Dougg. What do you think? Is Rome the mother of harlots in Rev. 17-18? Is the executive role of the pope the mouth of the first Roman beast in Rev. 13?
Even though I think the woman, the whore, is the Vatican. I don't think that Rome or the RCC is the mother of harlots. The inscription on her head just informs where the whore got her traits. Babylon, mother of harlots, goes back to the tower of Babel imo.

The pope is not the mouth of the first beast in Revelation 13. The mouth in Revelation 13:6 hurling blashemy against God and those in heaven, is the mouth of the little horn person in Daniel 7:8 and 7:19.

That person is not the Pope. The beast in Revelation 13 is the Antichrist in the fourth and final stage of his career. The four stages progress as follows.

1st stage - little horn politician to come on the scene in Europe rising among ten other kings.

2nd stage - some of his political actions regarding the perceived rescue of Israel will garner him to be thought of as Israel's prophesied great king. This is his Anti (in lieu of Jesus as the real king who the Jews crucified) Messiah stage.

3rd stage - without warning, he goes into the temple and declares that he is God, revealing himself as the Son of perdition, Man of Sin. The Jews will drop him like a hot potato as being their messiah. He will be killed shortly after entering this stage.

4th stage - Antichrist beast, resurrected from being dead and incarnated
by the beast from the past who was associated with the tower of Babel, Nimrod (nephilim) imo, he rules the world as Babylon, once again in total rebellion against God. The ten kings of Europe will side with the Antichrist beast, and no longer needing the Vatican as a political necessity will burn the Vatican to the ground in resentment for having to accommodate her for all this time.

It is not possible to tell what is going to happen regarding the Pope or the hierarchy. Only that the Pope will not be the first beast, his mouth, or the second beast.


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