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Old 1st March 2012, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Antigone View Post
I'd like to see your proof of this because frankly, this is a very uncharitable assumption to make.

She was burying her mother. Of course she wanted her significant other to be there.
that is understandable
but she should not have presented herself for communion because she is not in communion with the Church
it would have been a lie
the priest was helping her be more honest, he did not want to be a party to such a lie
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Old 1st March 2012, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Antigone View Post
I'd like to see your proof of this because frankly, this is a very uncharitable assumption to make.

She was burying her mother. Of course she wanted her significant other to be there.
Her lover refused to let the priest speak to her after she unloaded her lesbian bomb.
Then she directly went to Communion...then screamed and had a tantrum for the blogosphere.

A set up - i guess it takes more for some to recognise such things.
Or she simply wanted center stage at her own mom's funeral..?

I might not know what ticks she has that drove her to run nationally with this piece of news - but she did - so that is more than enough evidence to show her intentions were meant to garner some sort of played out sympathy and ridicule for the Church.

I dont often need an anvil to hit my head to assume spot light envy is something ppl might want in lieu of the surrounding circumstances - ie a funeral.

WHAT good reason - can you think of - for her to cry foul after all her actions were noted and she need not have made this public.
..?

IF she didnt want judged - she could have been prudent and kept this to herself.
SHE may not care about how she got the limelight, but only she got it.


Meh. Maybe i read ppl well, maybe i dont. BUT I cant think of why else she would parade this story out.
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Old 1st March 2012, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by WarriorAngel View Post
Her lover refused to let the priest speak to her after she unloaded her lesbian bomb.
Then she directly went to Communion...then screamed and had a tantrum for the blogosphere.

A set up - i guess it takes more for some to recognise such things.
Or she simply wanted center stage at her own mom's funeral..?

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So not only don't you have proof, you keep accusing this woman and you don't even realise how low that is?

Classy.
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Old 1st March 2012, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Rhamiel View Post
that is understandable
but she should not have presented herself for communion because she is not in communion with the Church
it would have been a lie
the priest was helping her be more honest, he did not want to be a party to such a lie
That I get, but I don't think this woman would've gotten in line if it had been made clear to her at the beginning.

Over here during a funeral mass, everyone who's ever taken their first communion goes for communion. Nobody I know has ever been turned down because they were homosexual - most of the time at these masses, the priest doesn't even know who they are; should he just refuse communion to everyone just to be on the safe side? There is no confession before hand either.

No, it's not how things are supposed to work, but that how things are over here. If someone in a same-sex relationship would go to communion during a funeral mass they would be genuinely surprised if they were refused.
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I keep saying this

We do not know the whole story.

The newspapers have different versions of what happened.

None of us were there to actually see what happened

So just HOW do we KNOW what happened


For goodness sake folks it's Lent !

Pray for all those involved in this unsavoury mess.

Lord have mercy !
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I feel bad for both the preist and the lady denied communion they where both put in an uncomfortable situation. My aunt's long term partner is just as much part of our family as any other in law, she lovingly took her turn taking care of my grandmother when she was dying of cancer. (One of many good things about being part of a large Catholic family, no one had to quit work to care for her.) I would have been mortifed if my aunt was denied communion during her furneral but I would have understood if her realtionship was made public knowledge to the preist. BTW our family ahears to the "don't ask don't tell" policy, but every one knows the score, they are in their late 60s that just how it is with that generation.
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^^^ This.
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A thought exercise occasioned by the lesbian/Communion controversy...
Perhaps this thought exercise might help folks to think through the lesbian/Communion controversy better. Imagine we’re looking at the line of those approaching for holy Communion one Sunday morning at Mass. I see ten men approaching. One of them is dressed in Neo-Nazi gear. Quick, which one (in my view) is ineligible for holy Communion per c. 915?
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When I meet a gay person, I have to distinguish between their being gay and being part of a lobby. If they accept the Lord and have goodwill, who am I to judge them? They shouldn’t be marginalized. The tendency is not the problem … they’re our brothers.
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