promoting abortion is a mortal sin - voting for a pro-abort is promoting abortion

People who wear their faith on their sleeve make me itchy. Santorum goes all around stumping saying over and over "hey, I'm a man of faith" and "well, I have a deep faith. Obama doesn't" type stuff. Turns me off.

That old addage, "preach the Gospel, if necessary use words" is a great axiom. If Santorum stuck to that, he'd be good to go. Today he talked about how global warming alarmists and go-green types are lunatics who are preaching a false gospel, devils.....and yet Pope John Paul II and especially Pope Benedict XVI wisely are very green and have gone at great lengths to promote a respect for the environment and to fight global warming. I wonder if Santorum missed that papal memo? Then he's blaming Obama for high gas prices. Where was he when they spiked out of control when Bush was in power? At that time they apologized away all the high $$$ over gas at the pump? It's OPEC's fault, it's the $$$ needed for research and re-fitting outdated dereks and pipelines and offshore facilities that are outdated and old. But when Obama takes over, somehow he has direct control over all oil prices and, because he won't support building a pipeline, that instantly makes gas prices soar?

Both political parties carry great good and great evil. They're both not really a part of the solution at times, but more often than not, part of the problem. They work in extremes these days with little common sense or sense of being an American. They are into a polarized ideaology that pits us all against each other. Nobody votes for someone, or at least very few people vote, for someone 100% with total support. I voted for Obama but hated his stances on the gay agenda, abortion, etc. But I supported his views on Medicare, Social Security, unions, the environment, the middle class, taming corporate excess, getting us out of Iraq, and many other things. Most Americans don't like every aspect of any candidate. So to say that voting for someone is a blanket endorsement of every facet of their platform is not really fair IMHO. But that's just my two cents....

I'm a SF Giants fan, but when Timmy Lincecum got pulled over in Seattle with marijuana in his lap, doesn't mean I'm pro-dooby!

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"Promoting abortion is a mortal sin."

That's what's wrong with the words mortal and venial. Only two categories.

And, according to you, the doctor who performs the abortion and the person who votes for a candidate who has better positions on social justice, the environment, health care, the death penalty, etc. than his opponent are committing the same "mortal sin."

Of course, that mortal sin is the same mortal sin as missing Mass on Sunday.

With the idea that souls are waiting in the big paddy wagon in the sky after being rejected by St. Peter, and the abortionist asks the man to his right, "What are you being sent to hell for?" and the man says, "I overslept last Sunday."

Do you see why people have become moral relativists when you look at scenarios like that?

I have talked about the nuns drawing the "souls" on the blackboard when I was a child--the soul with venial sin, speckled with little dots. The soul in mortal sin, completely filled in with chalk.

And then they said, "Mortal sin is completely and totally turning away from God."

Do I think my yellow-dog Democrat friend, who spends her life helping the immigrants, lobbying for peace, and doing prison ministry is going to hell because she votes Democratic? Of course not! That's complete and utter nonsense. If she went in to the voting booth and voted for someone who wanted to build a wall along the border, hold weekly executions, end Social Security and Medicare, and bomb Iran she would be acting completely against her conscience, and she is one of the best people I know.

If SHE went to hell, she'd be setting up soup kitchens there, listening to everyone's problems, setting up picket lines in front of heaven to protest the unjustice of sending that guy who overslept to hell forever--she would make hell such a love-filled, happenin' place that God would have to swoop her out because she did so much good there...

Today's morning prayer antiphon describes her aptly: When you meet those who are in need of clothing, do not turn away from them, for they are your brothers. Then your light shall break forth like the dawn, and your good deeds shall go before you.

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Originally Posted by truthHurts77

you claim to not know tht Obama was once called Most Pro Abortion Senator?

I was once called a handsome, reasonable, orthodox Catholic with a heart as big as a whale.....

...once.

one time he was the ONLY one who voted for some liberal abortion meaure (partial birth)

One time he was the only one of what that votes for some liberal what, when ?

even all the other liberals were not going to Go THAT far... (as that bill went)

All the other liberal what, where and how far did the bill go ?

but BHO did

Did what, where, under what circumstances and when ?

again, promoting abortion is a MORTAL sin

Define "promoting"

I don't think you and I and maybe some (unidentified, nebulous group that I will leave undefined) have the same interpretation of "promoting"

it's not like there are NO candidates who are pro life

No, its just that the "pro-life" candidates what to gut education, healthcare and destroy the middle class, wage war on people and countries that are of no real threat to us, expand the death penalty, subjugate women and minorities, rape the planet and allow the rich to enslave the poor.

But as long as they can claim the, some say, meaningless label of "pro-life" I guess its ok.

Well, as long as you tell me its ok.

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Allez hop
T'occupes
T'inquietes
Touches pas ma planete
"It's not today" que le ciel me tombera sur la tete
Et que la colle me manquera
(Ouh, Ouh, ,Ouh) ca plane pour moi

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Were you dressed up for Holloween, or something?

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....because I'm not banned yet.

so why r u Republican with an elephant because they think it okay to murder... and not just in the womb.

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Now millions of Americans are confused as to what it means to be Catholic...

Take the, abortion any time- any place away from the Dems... and they are more in line with the Church then the Repubs... take away the, we only agree with abortion when a women's life is at risk or when she was rapped or in cases of incest... they are really at odds with the Church.

that is the long and short of it...

and further more... American Catholic's conscious is very conflicted because NO Candidate NONE, zero, zilch, who has a snow balls chance, is pro life.

So for the love of God, stop it with the promotion of EITHER.

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Now millions of Americans are confused as to what it means to be Catholic...

Originally Posted by Miss Shelby

Were you dressed up for Holloween, or something?

Yes I was.

And

I was in the company of people who were in a temporary state of chemically induced mental disorientation.

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T'occupes
T'inquietes
Touches pas ma planete
"It's not today" que le ciel me tombera sur la tete
Et que la colle me manquera
(Ouh, Ouh, ,Ouh) ca plane pour moi

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you have made your opinion very well known on the matter, so don't vote bene. do what you feel is necessary. but for the love of heaven give us all a break. you talk too much. less is more, babe, less is more.

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....because I'm not banned yet.

Less is a bore.

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Pendant que la marée monte
Et que chacun refait ses comptes
J'emmène au creux de mon ombre
Des poussières de toi
Le vent les portera
Tout disparaîtra mais
Le vent nous portera

I guess having the freedom to vote and speek freely is an antiquated notion for you.

Bene has the right to speek as she feels in this forum and doesn't need anyone to tell her to shut up.



Jim