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Old 23rd February 2012, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by truthHurts77 View Post
what the heck are you talking aboiut??

Gingrich and Santorum are pro life

try again
Unless "pro-life" is a euphemism for "anti-abortion" Gingrich and Sanatorium cannot be considered "pro-life"

Both of them are salivating at the possibility of launch an attack on Iran.

Waging aggressive war isn't "pro-life" and likely is a mortal sin.
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Old 23rd February 2012, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Cosmic Charlie View Post
Unless "pro-life" is a euphemism for "anti-abortion" Gingrich and Sanatorium cannot be considered "pro-life"

Both of them are salivating at the possibility of launch an attack on Iran.

Waging aggressive war isn't "pro-life" and likely is a mortal sin.
Personally, I think that stopping the brutal murder of unborn babies is far more important than preventing a war. That said, I definitely do not want to go to war with Iran and I hope and pray that we don't. It would probably be an unjust war if we did go to war with Iran.
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Old 23rd February 2012, 05:50 PM
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[quote]you claim to not know tht Obama was once called Most Pro Abortion Senator?[/QUOT]

THis is a claim those on the political right make, but Obama
although pro-choice, never forced abortion as the Clinton's did.

one time he was the ONLY one who voted for some liberal abortion meaure (partial birth)
The Federal version of the Partial Birth Abortion bill he supported, but was not yet a senator.


even all the other liberals were not going to Go THAT far... (as that bill went)
Then President Clinton, vetoed the first PBA bill that made it to his desk.

ABortion is a mortal sin for Catholics, who have full knowleged of it's imorality, who commit the sin with full knowledge and free will.

THose who do not know or comprehend the seriousness of what abortion is, can not commit mortal sin by the teaching of the Catholic CHurch on what is required for a sin to be mortal.

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Old 23rd February 2012, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Cosmic Charlie View Post
Unless "pro-life" is a euphemism for "anti-abortion" Gingrich and Sanatorium cannot be considered "pro-life"

Both of them are salivating at the possibility of launch an attack on Iran.

Waging aggressive war isn't "pro-life" and likely is a mortal sin.

Not to mention the fact that Santorum voted for the war in Iraq, despite Pope John Paul II and Cardinal Ratzinger delcaring it as an unjust war.

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Old 23rd February 2012, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Ave Maria View Post
Personally, I think that stopping the brutal murder of unborn babies is far more important than preventing a war. That said, I definitely do not want to go to war with Iran and I hope and pray that we don't. It would probably be an unjust war if we did go to war with Iran.

The three missile strikes Bush made in attempt to kill Saddam, took out entire blocks, killing innocent men women and babies.

Santorum gave full political and moral support for the war.




Romney supported the war as well, but he wasn't a member of congress.


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Old 23rd February 2012, 07:14 PM
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I think that voting is a serious responsibility, far too serious to participate in without carefully studying the issues and the candidates.

Cardinal Chaput can't do the research for you.
Fr. Pavone can't do the research for you.

Just saying, "Fr. Pavone says he's OK, so I'll vote for him," is far more reprehensible than taking the time and effort to become informed on all the positions a candidate holds (which is what the USCCB recommends.)

I think God is asking us to look underneath the surface in our voting.

I respect a thoughtful, well-researched well-cast vote in either direction.
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Old 23rd February 2012, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Cosmic Charlie View Post
Unless "pro-life" is a euphemism for "anti-abortion" Gingrich and Sanatorium cannot be considered "pro-life"

Both of them are salivating at the possibility of launch an attack on Iran...
How do you know?
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Old 23rd February 2012, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by truthHurts77 View Post
need i say more?

if you vote for someone who thinks its OK to murder

you are in complicity
Yeah...

and repubs hold all the answers, right?

Though I do admit Santorum shows a bit of promise, I still don't trust in politicians to do ANYTHING about abortion. So I'll vote accordingly...

the one thing I'm worried about is my SSA benefits being forever cut. Oh but then again I shouldn't think of myself...I'm not really. Millions of people depend on this for their LIFE.
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Senator Kerry also voted for the Iraq War..... before he voted against it! (Remember that famous line from the 2004 campaign?)
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Old 24th February 2012, 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by truthHurts77 View Post
need i say more?

if you vote for someone who thinks its OK to murder

you are in complicity
Preach it Sister!



Amen.
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